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From: Paul_E_Wog on 11 Aug 2010 15:53
On 8/11/2010 2:07 PM, Nonnymus wrote:

> We've lived in Henderson since 2001. When I read the list, I felt it was
> nothing more than a hatchet job on our town. The bad points we all
> recognize were exaggerated and virtually none of the positive aspects
> were mentioned or if they were mentioned, they were minimized.

He did the positive aspects in a post prior to the bad ones:

http://www.casinotop10.net/10-best-things-about-living-in-las-vegas.shtml
From: jerry the jerk on 11 Aug 2010 17:07
On Aug 11 2010 11:07 AM, Nonnymus wrote:

> "Pinstripe Sniper" <verysorry(a)nocando.com> wrote in message
> news:4c6edbc9.9780343(a)news.flex.com...
> > I haven't read the list but I will say in the past couple of weeks
> > we've had just under or over 100 degree days and many of us actually
> > think that was quite comfortable. I do.
> >
> > PsS
>
> We've lived in Henderson since 2001. When I read the list, I felt it was
> nothing more than a hatchet job on our town. The bad points we all
> recognize were exaggerated and virtually none of the positive aspects were
> mentioned or if they were mentioned, they were minimized.
>
> What we have here is a new city, constructed around a core mixing tourism,
> old and new. The further you are from that core, the newer everything is
> and the better it is.
>
> My impression is that the author lived or spent much of his existence here
> in that core- particularly the downtown area. That would explain his
> diatribe on crime and the people he encountered. As you venture outward, to
> Summerlin, Henderson, the Sun Cities and similar developments, you encounter
> planned communities with rational development transitioning between single
> family residential, duplex, multifamily, light commercial and primary
> commercial. The streets are paved and solid, infrastructure like
> functioning cable and telephone, reliable electric and water and sewer are
> in place and working. You don't find that in older cities anywhere. Sure,
> the homes have a sameness that can be boring, but then they also reflect the
> reality of living in the desert with high temperatures and lots of sunshine.
> Concrete roofs and stucco siding are a necessity and not just a concession.
>
> Our housing density is a compromise between downtown urban and spacious
> suburbs. Anyone who grew up in a highrise apartment house in a city would
> appreciate any back yard or parking space at all. Anyone growing up in a
> farming community would feel cramped by small set-backs, tiny garages and
> small yards. It's a middle ground here.
>
> The newspaper publishes a weekly crime map showing burglaries, drugs,
> assaults etc. that were on the police blotter. I defy anyone to find a city
> with a suburban area like ours to show a significant improvement over LV and
> Henderson. The part about the police being out of control was ridiculous.
> While generously overpaid, like our firemen, our police are professional.
> Mistakes can happen, but if you're a law-abiding citizen who doesn't have an
> "attitude," they're like any other city. I've never been stopped,
> questioned, frisked or even had a ticket. Our police are like the police in
> any other city. If you go downtown or on the Strip, get drunk, mouth off,
> act stupid or do a crime, they'll take care of matters promptly and
> professionally, though.
>
> Nonny

I couldn't agree with you more nonny.
The people who post anti-police remarks, are either engaged in some
activity contrary to the law or are so liberal that they feel people
should be allowed to do anything they like.
There are a few bad apples in any police force; of any city in the U.S.
That doesn't tarnish the entire police force by any means.

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From: Chef Kurt on 11 Aug 2010 19:13
On Aug 11, 2:07 pm, "jerry the jerk" <adb8...(a)webnntp.invalid> wrote:

> I couldn't agree with you more nonny.
> The people who post anti-police remarks, are either engaged in some
> activity contrary to the law or are so liberal that they feel people
> should be allowed to do anything they like.

It's just one extreme or the other for you, isn't it?

> There are a few bad apples in any police force; of any city in the U.S.
> That doesn't tarnish the entire police force by any means.

Really?

Kurt

From: octoad on 12 Aug 2010 00:29

"tom ronson" <theavlv.ronson(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i3rrvm$bol$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Double Down Now! wrote:
>> According to Vegas Rex:
>>
>> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
>>
>
> you see that Vegas Rex isn't Vegas Rex anymore? think he's Seattle Rex
> now.
>
> His bit on the cops (neon police) is very, very good.... nails it.

Is this the guy that moved to some shithole on Koval or somewhere right by
the Strip a few years back? Claiming it was gonna be great and wondrous and
downright magical? Screw all the yuppies, he wanted to be with the real
people? Gambling and drinking and a life of general degeneracy was gonna be
really cool? That Vegas was heaven on earth?

If so, I warned him he would come to these exact same conclusions way back
then. For his sake I'm glad he finally wised up.

O

O


From: octoad on 12 Aug 2010 00:41

"Nonnymus" <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:Te-dnWghuL9Ce__RnZ2dnUVZ5jednZ2d(a)giganews.com...

> My impression is that the author lived or spent much of his existence here
> in that core- particularly the downtown area. That would explain his
> diatribe on crime and the people he encountered.

The people I encountered in superficial faux Tuscanville were shallow, rude,
and stupid.

> As you venture outward, to Summerlin, Henderson, the Sun Cities and
> similar developments, you encounter planned communities with rational
> development transitioning between single family residential, duplex,
> multifamily, light commercial and primary commercial.

As in: no independent local businesses of any kind, square grids featuring
big box power centers every few blocks, with the usual smattering of Central
American nail salons and the ubiquitous poker bars, all enclosing nearly
identical collections of tile roofed stucco houses, of which most are in
foreclosure.

> The streets are paved and solid, infrastructure like functioning cable and
> telephone, reliable electric and water and sewer are in place and working.

Boy, that's really unusual!

> You don't find that in older cities anywhere.

I've found paved streets, cable TV and telephone service, and reliable
electric, water, and sewer in every single place I've ever lived in my
entire life, from large urban area to sprawling suburb to rural backwater.

> Sure, the homes have a sameness that can be boring, but then they also
> reflect the reality of living in the desert with high temperatures and
> lots of sunshine. Concrete roofs and stucco siding are a necessity and not
> just a concession.

Yes, the heat makes any sort of architectural deviation impossible. Just as
cold weather makes every house look exactly the same back east.

> Our housing density is a compromise between downtown urban and spacious
> suburbs. Anyone who grew up in a highrise apartment house in a city would
> appreciate any back yard or parking space at all. Anyone growing up in a
> farming community would feel cramped by small set-backs, tiny garages and
> small yards. It's a middle ground here.

And anyone from an actually nice suburban area, from California to the
midwest to the south to the east coast, would find Vegas suburbs cheap,
tacky, without any character whatsoever, and now, mostly vacant.

> The newspaper publishes a weekly crime map showing burglaries, drugs,
> assaults etc. that were on the police blotter. I defy anyone to find a
> city with a suburban area like ours to show a significant improvement over
> LV and Henderson. The part about the police being out of control was
> ridiculous. While generously overpaid, like our firemen, our police are
> professional. Mistakes can happen, but if you're a law-abiding citizen who
> doesn't have an "attitude," they're like any other city. I've never been
> stopped, questioned, frisked or even had a ticket. Our police are like
> the police in any other city. If you go downtown or on the Strip, get
> drunk, mouth off, act stupid or do a crime, they'll take care of matters
> promptly and professionally, though.

I live in a CA north bay area city of 150,000, in a county composed of
suburbs, small towns, and rural areas. People here would be astonished,
aghast, frightened, and horrified at the crime perpetrated by both the
sleazy Vegas denizens and their crooked police force.

O


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