From: Brownz (Mobile) on
george wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:22 pm, "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone....(a)microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> Is there a website / map that shows what *actual* route BA fly
>> BA0287 from LHR - SFO ?
>> Just interested in what I'll be flying over !!
>>
>> --
>> Cheerz - Brownz
>> '89 K100RS
>> '53 JCW MCS (Cage)http://www.brownz.org/
>
> Of course the route depends on the weather and the head winds. One
> time I had one of my most interesting flights ever. We flew over the
> Outer Hebrides, Iceland, central Greenland (the black cliffs which
> look like bites have been taken out of them and the contrasting strong
> pure white snow is excellent, and it's interesting to see how clouds
> are not white but pale gray when compared to the Ice Cap), across
> Disco Bay, Greenland, the Canadian arctic islands, and then along the
> canadian Rockies in Alberta crossing into the US at Idaho (a fairly
> small target!) and then down the coast with every snow capped volcano
> in sight from the Canadian border on south. Much more interesting
> than routes further south, although the ice pack off of the tip of
> southern Greenland can be interesting if you've never seen it before.
> It was almost enough to get me to give up aisle seats!!!!
>

Heh, when I fly I've always got to have a window seat, can't stand being
stuck in an aisle.

Just what I'm used to I suppose.


--
Cheerz - Brownz
'89 K100RS
'53 JCW MCS (Cage)
http://www.brownz.org/


From: Graham Harrison on

"Brownz (Mobile)" <someone.not(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> george wrote:
>> On Jul 29, 10:22 pm, "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone....(a)microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Is there a website / map that shows what *actual* route BA fly
>>> BA0287 from LHR - SFO ?
>>> Just interested in what I'll be flying over !!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheerz - Brownz
>>> '89 K100RS
>>> '53 JCW MCS (Cage)http://www.brownz.org/
>>
>> Of course the route depends on the weather and the head winds. One
>> time I had one of my most interesting flights ever. We flew over the
>> Outer Hebrides, Iceland, central Greenland (the black cliffs which
>> look like bites have been taken out of them and the contrasting strong
>> pure white snow is excellent, and it's interesting to see how clouds
>> are not white but pale gray when compared to the Ice Cap), across
>> Disco Bay, Greenland, the Canadian arctic islands, and then along the
>> canadian Rockies in Alberta crossing into the US at Idaho (a fairly
>> small target!) and then down the coast with every snow capped volcano
>> in sight from the Canadian border on south. Much more interesting
>> than routes further south, although the ice pack off of the tip of
>> southern Greenland can be interesting if you've never seen it before.
>> It was almost enough to get me to give up aisle seats!!!!
>>
>
> Heh, when I fly I've always got to have a window seat, can't stand being
> stuck in an aisle.
>
> Just what I'm used to I suppose.
>
>
> --
> Cheerz - Brownz
> '89 K100RS
> '53 JCW MCS (Cage)
> http://www.brownz.org/
>

You might also be interested in
http://oak.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html Although it's for
Oakland you can see the routes into SFO as well. You will probably find
that you will come to a place called Point Reyes (about 30 miles north of
San Francisco) at about 20000ft then drift gently down to about 12000 as you
approach the city. After that things get a bit more interesting as the
plane crosses the airport at about 10000 and then proceeds down the bay
turning round to come back up the bay, across the San Mateo bridge in pretty
short order. The two runways (28L+28R) at SFO are very closely spaced and
there is every chance they will be doing parallel landings with another
aircraft just off your wing. I've never done a different approach although
my wife did once land on 19 coming down over Oakland when her brother was
flying the aircraft.

Departures tend to use the other two runways of the + with two aircraft
(1L+1R) departing in between two arriving aircraft. If you're interested
in that kind of thing drive just south of the airport to Coyote Point, park
up and watch the fun. There's a quite nice museum there too.

From: Hatunen on
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:54:13 +0100, "Graham Harrison"
<edward.harrison1(a)remove.btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Brownz (Mobile)" <someone.not(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:cK1kk.75642$wd5.16276(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>> george wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 10:22 pm, "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone....(a)microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Is there a website / map that shows what *actual* route BA fly
>>>> BA0287 from LHR - SFO ?
>>>> Just interested in what I'll be flying over !!

>You might also be interested in
>http://oak.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html Although it's for
>Oakland you can see the routes into SFO as well. You will probably find
>that you will come to a place called Point Reyes (about 30 miles north of
>San Francisco) at about 20000ft then drift gently down to about 12000 as you
>approach the city. After that things get a bit more interesting as the
>plane crosses the airport at about 10000 and then proceeds down the bay
>turning round to come back up the bay, across the San Mateo bridge in pretty
>short order. The two runways (28L+28R) at SFO are very closely spaced and
>there is every chance they will be doing parallel landings with another
>aircraft just off your wing. I've never done a different approach although
>my wife did once land on 19 coming down over Oakland when her brother was
>flying the aircraft.
>

if you're interested in the overall route, get a globe and a
peice of string and pull the string taut between SFO and LHR.
This is he great circle route and the one the pilots will try to
approximate as closely as practical.

If you fly SFO->LHR in the summer, and since BA has an evening
departure, an oddity is that as you begin the main part of the
flight the sun is low off the west wing of the plane as sunset
approaches. The sun remains off the left wing for the rest of the
flight until you get to England the next morning, where it
remains off the left wing, but it is now rising.

--
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Graham Harrison on

"Graham Harrison" <edward.harrison1(a)remove.btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brownz (Mobile)" <someone.not(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:cK1kk.75642$wd5.16276(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>> george wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 10:22 pm, "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone....(a)microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Is there a website / map that shows what *actual* route BA fly
>>>> BA0287 from LHR - SFO ?
>>>> Just interested in what I'll be flying over !!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheerz - Brownz
>>>> '89 K100RS
>>>> '53 JCW MCS (Cage)http://www.brownz.org/
>>>
>>> Of course the route depends on the weather and the head winds. One
>>> time I had one of my most interesting flights ever. We flew over the
>>> Outer Hebrides, Iceland, central Greenland (the black cliffs which
>>> look like bites have been taken out of them and the contrasting strong
>>> pure white snow is excellent, and it's interesting to see how clouds
>>> are not white but pale gray when compared to the Ice Cap), across
>>> Disco Bay, Greenland, the Canadian arctic islands, and then along the
>>> canadian Rockies in Alberta crossing into the US at Idaho (a fairly
>>> small target!) and then down the coast with every snow capped volcano
>>> in sight from the Canadian border on south. Much more interesting
>>> than routes further south, although the ice pack off of the tip of
>>> southern Greenland can be interesting if you've never seen it before.
>>> It was almost enough to get me to give up aisle seats!!!!
>>>
>>
>> Heh, when I fly I've always got to have a window seat, can't stand being
>> stuck in an aisle.
>>
>> Just what I'm used to I suppose.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheerz - Brownz
>> '89 K100RS
>> '53 JCW MCS (Cage)
>> http://www.brownz.org/
>>
>
> You might also be interested in
> http://oak.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html Although it's for
> Oakland you can see the routes into SFO as well. You will probably find
> that you will come to a place called Point Reyes (about 30 miles north of
> San Francisco) at about 20000ft then drift gently down to about 12000 as
> you approach the city. After that things get a bit more interesting as
> the plane crosses the airport at about 10000 and then proceeds down the
> bay turning round to come back up the bay, across the San Mateo bridge in
> pretty short order. The two runways (28L+28R) at SFO are very closely
> spaced and there is every chance they will be doing parallel landings with
> another aircraft just off your wing. I've never done a different
> approach although my wife did once land on 19 coming down over Oakland
> when her brother was flying the aircraft.
>
> Departures tend to use the other two runways of the + with two aircraft
> (1L+1R) departing in between two arriving aircraft. If you're interested
> in that kind of thing drive just south of the airport to Coyote Point,
> park up and watch the fun. There's a quite nice museum there too.

If you access the webtrak site and choose replay, rather than live in the
bottom right then set the date to yesterday (29th) and the time to 1610
you'll see where the 287 went yesterday. You might want to set the replay
speed up a bit.

From: Brownz (Mobile) on
Graham Harrison wrote:
> "Graham Harrison" <edward.harrison1(a)remove.btinternet.com> wrote in
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>>
>> "Brownz (Mobile)" <someone.not(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:cK1kk.75642$wd5.16276(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>>> george wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29, 10:22 pm, "Brownz \(Mobile\)"
>>>> <someone....(a)microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is there a website / map that shows what *actual* route BA fly
>>>>> BA0287 from LHR - SFO ?
>>>>> Just interested in what I'll be flying over !!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course the route depends on the weather and the head winds. One
>>>> time I had one of my most interesting flights ever. We flew over
>>>> the Outer Hebrides, Iceland, central Greenland (the black cliffs
>>>> which look like bites have been taken out of them and the
>>>> contrasting strong pure white snow is excellent, and it's
>>>> interesting to see how clouds are not white but pale gray when
>>>> compared to the Ice Cap), across Disco Bay, Greenland, the
>>>> Canadian arctic islands, and then along the canadian Rockies in
>>>> Alberta crossing into the US at Idaho (a fairly small target!) and
>>>> then down the coast with every snow capped volcano in sight from
>>>> the Canadian border on south. Much more interesting than routes
>>>> further south, although the ice pack off of the tip of southern
>>>> Greenland can be interesting if you've never seen it before. It
>>>> was almost enough to get me to give up aisle seats!!!!
>>>
>>> Heh, when I fly I've always got to have a window seat, can't stand
>>> being stuck in an aisle.
>>>
>>> Just what I'm used to I suppose.
>>>
>>
>> You might also be interested in
>> http://oak.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html Although it's
>> for Oakland you can see the routes into SFO as well. You will
>> probably find that you will come to a place called Point Reyes
>> (about 30 miles north of San Francisco) at about 20000ft then drift
>> gently down to about 12000 as you approach the city. After that
>> things get a bit more interesting as the plane crosses the airport
>> at about 10000 and then proceeds down the bay turning round to come
>> back up the bay, across the San Mateo bridge in pretty short order. The
>> two runways (28L+28R) at SFO are very closely spaced and there
>> is every chance they will be doing parallel landings with another
>> aircraft just off your wing. I've never done a different approach
>> although my wife did once land on 19 coming down over Oakland when
>> her brother was flying the aircraft. Departures tend to use the other two
>> runways of the + with two
>> aircraft (1L+1R) departing in between two arriving aircraft. If
>> you're interested in that kind of thing drive just south of the
>> airport to Coyote Point, park up and watch the fun. There's a
>> quite nice museum there too.
>
> If you access the webtrak site and choose replay, rather than live in
> the bottom right then set the date to yesterday (29th) and the time
> to 1610 you'll see where the 287 went yesterday. You might want to
> set the replay speed up a bit.

Cool. Busy bit of airspace !

--
Cheerz - Brownz
'89 K100RS
'53 JCW MCS (Cage)
http://www.brownz.org/