From: Brad & Janet on 27 May 2007 14:43 On 27 May, 20:18, "William Black" <william.bl...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "Magda" <magda(a)eu> wrote in message > > news:efej53hrpbafjqmqa7op2ekbbd6s8u12ut(a)4ax.com... > > > On Sun, 27 May 2007 17:02:09 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "William Black" > > <william.bl...(a)hotmail.co.uk> arranged some electrons, so they looked like > > this: > > ... My wife needs a Schengen visa to visit Schengen countries. > > > The wife of a french man won't need it. > > > ... She has a UK residential visa. > > > Sign the Schengen agreements! > > > (Like that's gonna happen in my lifetime...) > > I wish. > > And the Euro as well. > > I can't get my head around people who think that having your own currency is > a good thing for no very good reason except some sort of fear. > yep, its as retarded as ...... Imperial measurements
From: d4g4h4 on 27 May 2007 15:50 William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1hysaca.kdo1ih1vew26wN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... > > William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> <gregory.wajntrob(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:1180282790.996109.39650(a)u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >> > Dear all, > >> > > >> > My girlfriend is american and I am french. I am currently living in > >> > London and she would like to come and join me. However, it seems > >> > pretty hard for her to find a job here... > >> > > >> > Thus, we thought of getting a french PACS (kind of like a UK civil > >> > partnership) and would like to know if this would make it possible for > >> > her to work in the UK. > >> > > >> > Does anybody has a piece of advice on this one? > >> > >> Marry her. > > > > Maybe they don't want to. From the UK point of view, the PACS and the > > marriage certificate are equal documents. I can't comment on the french > > side however. > > > >> The paperwork gets a lot simpler and she'll be able to settle here within > >> weeks. > >> > >> Fianc� visas take months to come through and anything else makes life > >> complicated for the immigration officials who are all invariably horribly > >> suspicious of anything new and different. > >> > >> 'Spousal visas' take about six weeks. > >> > >> I've been through this process. It takes time, > > > > It took me exactly two weeks from the beginning of application to the > > receipt of both passports with his visa for my application for my > > partner (unmarried) to join me in the UK. This was 2002. Indeed, we were > > caught out by the speed of the response. If you apply from within the > > UK, you can get an appointment, and providing it's a straightforward > > application, get it approved the same day. > > We applied in Bombay. Which I suspected, and was probably part of your experience. India and Pakistan have a huge number of applications. > The only real problem were the visa agents employed by the UK government who > seemed to think they sat on the left hand of God rather being employed to > process people's paperwork. When did you apply? Our experience of 5 years ago was exemplerary as to how public officials should behave- not just the experience with the consulate, but then further when we went to Liverpool to apply for ILR. > But the visa came in just under two weeks. So what's the problem then. > We were advised that fianc� visas were taking between six and twelve months > at that time... You shouldn't believe everything you're advised, and remember that the number of applications (and therefor amount of time they can take) vary from country to country. You can get them on the same day, if you make an appointment at one of the US consulates. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
From: d4g4h4 on 27 May 2007 16:02 William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "Magda" <magda(a)eu> wrote in message > news:efej53hrpbafjqmqa7op2ekbbd6s8u12ut(a)4ax.com... > > On Sun, 27 May 2007 17:02:09 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "William Black" > > <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> arranged some electrons, so they looked like > > this: > > > ... My wife needs a Schengen visa to visit Schengen countries. > > > > The wife of a french man won't need it. > > > > ... She has a UK residential visa. > > > > Sign the Schengen agreements! > > > > (Like that's gonna happen in my lifetime...) > > I wish. > > And the Euro as well. > > I can't get my head around people who think that having your own currency is > a good thing for no very good reason except some sort of fear. You should remember that not everyone who has the euro now thinks it was a great thing- it definitely put up prices in much of Europe, and not everyone in Europe is travelling all the time. I've no truck for the UK government, but the reason they didn't adopt the euro is because they didn't think it was good for the UK at the time. Blair wanted the Euro, Brown didn't. Personally, I love the Euro, it makes travelling to Euro countries much easier, and as I have a nationwide account, I pay nothing for euro transactions while travelling. I've lost a little on various Euro payments into my account over the last couple of years- and I admit I'd be pissed off about it if it was most of my income. I'm more upset that Elgar has been removed from the 20 pound note than I am about whether we have a euro or a pound. As for the above- the wife of a french man will need a visa depending on: 1. Where they live 2. What passport she has My partner doesn't need a visa to go to any EEA country, because he doesn't have a passport which required one. Simple as that. However, there are rumours that the EU (and perhaps the EEA, which with Schengen is likely) are going to harmonise these things, so that residents of EEA countries can also move freely. If you think about it, it's unfair that an Indian passport holder with UK residency needs a visa just to go to France. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
From: William Black on 27 May 2007 16:31 "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1hyshik.pqj3yrxq1108N%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... >> We applied in Bombay. > > Which I suspected, and was probably part of your experience. India and > Pakistan have a huge number of applications. I thought that as well, but on looking at the figures there were only about 4,000 visa applications for residency from India to the UK last year. >> The only real problem were the visa agents employed by the UK government >> who >> seemed to think they sat on the left hand of God rather being employed to >> process people's paperwork. > > When did you apply? Our experience of 5 years ago was exemplerary as to > how public officials should behave- not just the experience with the > consulate, but then further when we went to Liverpool to apply for ILR. In India you have to deal with a company called VFS, who have just been pulled up for bad computer security. They are, I'm afraid, rude arrogant and inefficient. They separate husbands from wives as a matter of policy when you're on the premises for no better reason than people are easier to control in those circumstances. They ban the use of mobile phones, again for no very good reason, and seem to be more than a little bit biased towards the big travel companies who pay them loads of money in agent's fees. Their offices are constantly patrolled by uniformed guards who look into rooms through large glass peepholes, ever door has a uniformed person on it and every person moving about the place, even from room to room is wafted by some sort of metal detector. It's also the 'usual level of efficency' for Indian uniformed security guards, useless... All in all, to put it into 'management speak', they have 'training isues' with their aproach to customer service. >> But the visa came in just under two weeks. > > So what's the problem then. Being treated as a criminal by the people whose wages I'm paying. >> We were advised that fianc� visas were taking between six and twelve >> months >> at that time... > > You shouldn't believe everything you're advised, and remember that the > number of applications (and therefor amount of time they can take) vary > from country to country. You can get them on the same day, if you make > an appointment at one of the US consulates. I'm told that if you put your application in at this end and make an appointment it only takes a day as well, but when you enquire they also say that they reserve the right to make you go back to your wife's country of origin to do the paperwork... On the other hand my wife's Schengen visa was dead easy. Go to Dutch consulate (in Hull). Fill in form. Hand in various bits of paper. One week later the passport comes back all stamped up, no charge... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
From: William Black on 27 May 2007 16:34
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1hyshwx.adthm9dfh9y5N%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk... If you think about it, > it's unfair that an Indian passport holder with UK residency needs a > visa just to go to France. I know it's unfair, and for an Indian to get a Schengen visa from France has recently (I've been told) become both non trivial and expensive... On the other hand my wife got hers from the Dutch, who were delighted to send her it, free of charge. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |