From: d4g4h4 on
Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:33:04 +0100, d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> "Martin" <me(a)address.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:b9tj53pi67trkl3kmsherdmcq255hr1e6h(a)4ax.com...
> >> > On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:02:24 +0100, d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
> >> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[]
> >> >>You should remember that not everyone who has the euro now thinks it was
> >> >>a great thing- it definitely put up prices in much of Europe, and not
> >> >>everyone in Europe is travelling all the time.
> >> >
> >> > So what put up prices in UK?
> >>
> >> Greed?
> >>
> >> Prices here are noticeably higher than in most of the rest of Europe.
> >
> >Indeed they are. Why are they higher in Norway than here?
>
> because Norway has vast oil and gas reserves and a tiny population.

Neighbouring Sweden has similar prices- Finland, Iceland too- none of
them are cheap- and don't have the same oil reserves.

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From: d4g4h4 on
Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:31:06 GMT, "William Black"
> <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[]
> >Prices here are noticeably higher than in most of the rest of Europe.
>
> and getting noticeably higher all the time.

Noticeably higher- I don't know, but whatever, the distinct advantage of
that is that when I go to most of Europe, prices seem lower.

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From: d4g4h4 on
Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:52:28 +0100, d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:31:06 GMT, "William Black"
> >> <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >[]
> >> >Prices here are noticeably higher than in most of the rest of Europe.
> >>
> >> and getting noticeably higher all the time.
> >
> >Noticeably higher- I don't know, but whatever, the distinct advantage of
> >that is that when I go to most of Europe, prices seem lower.
>
> In the long term the pound is going to die, there is nothing of any substance
> behind the value of the pound.

Why don't people spend endless threads debating the Swedish of Danish
Krone? I really don't care whether we have pounds or not as matter of
principle.

> Every time we go to England, the prices have gone up, where as at home prices
> are stable. I suspect that the UK inflation figures are being fudged just like
> they were around 30 years ago.

It always seems more expensive to me when I visit NL, and I notice
prices going up most places I travel to infrequently.

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From: d4g4h4 on
Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2007 23:08:02 +0100, d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <me(a)address.invalid> wrote:
[]
> >> Every time we go to England, the prices have gone up, where as at home
> >> prices are stable. I suspect that the UK inflation figures are being
> >> fudged just like they were around 30 years ago.
> >
> >It always seems more expensive to me when I visit NL, and I notice
> >prices going up most places I travel to infrequently.
>
> I don't think you can judge the Netherlands by Schiphol bar prices :-)

Woudl I do that? :)

I'm also commenting on the costs that affect me most there- eating out,
and hotels. I spend time in the country every couple of years, which
isn't a lot, I admit.

> Supermarket prices in NL have gone down during the last five years because
> of a silly price war that has left several of the major players bankrupt.

Supermarket prices have seemed pretty stable here. My partner comments
on both that, and general clothing prices. Certainly, in the 7 years
I've lived here, I just don't see much difference. Same with the bar and
restaurant prices. Some businesses do try it on though.

> House
> prices have gone up, but at nothing like the rate they have in UK.

Housing prices are out of control in the UK. It's horrendous.

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From: Frank F. Matthews on


William Black wrote:

> "Magda" <magda(a)eu> wrote in message
> news:efej53hrpbafjqmqa7op2ekbbd6s8u12ut(a)4ax.com...
>
>>On Sun, 27 May 2007 17:02:09 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "William Black"
>><william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>>this:
>
>
>>... My wife needs a Schengen visa to visit Schengen countries.
>>
>>The wife of a french man won't need it.
>>
>>... She has a UK residential visa.
>>
>>Sign the Schengen agreements!
>>
>>(Like that's gonna happen in my lifetime...)
>
>
> I wish.
>
> And the Euro as well.
>
> I can't get my head around people who think that having your own currency is
> a good thing for no very good reason except some sort of fear.
>
> The only people who make money are the banks, who actually manage to tax
> people for having the temerity to want to spend money abroad...
>

The problem is that the loss of a separate currency results in a great
deal of loss of the ability to manage your own economy.

It is not clear that the advantages are more than minor.