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From: John Sisker on 10 Jul 2010 02:04
> Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services
> www.cruisequick.com - able to offer some of the lowest prices and best
> value added in the industry. (not affiliated)

WARNING: Using a fake name, Ari's premise is simple... "a lie is
as good as the truth if he can get someone to believe it." But
heed this warning; he has tried all of this before. Just look
back on this newsgroup, and there he will be in all his pathetic
ugliness. Yet, this time it is much worse. Out to undermine this
newsgroup to the point that seemingly he alone appears to be the
only authority on cruising, he not only fabricates everything he
says, but does much of it by stealing the identity of many
others, including yours truly, as the means to this end (if a
posting seems out of character or obscene, be sure to check the.
Headers - if it's from X-privat or Mixmin, it's a forged post
from Ari). Besides the identity theft, this time he is blatantly
stalking many of us into other newsgroups that we frequent, with
the intent to disturb and spread his lies there as well. It was
even shown that this is not the only newsgroup that he is trying
to disturb this way; there are several others as well, even an
aviation group in which he is apparently stealing the identity
of actual pilots, where periodic warnings to readers about Ari
are posted. He has pretended to be a pilot there; here he
pretends to be a travel agent.

Unfortunately, because of these very antics by Ari, many of the
regulars have already moved on to other forms of communication,
including many of the travel agents. And after chasing them
away by posting vile messages under their names, he chastises
them for leaving the group. He then tries to fool readers here
that he is the savior of the group - when in fact he is the
person who has caused the anarchy here.

Others are simply waiting and hopefully for a time when it is
safe to rejoin this group. Yet, to Ari, it doesn't matter... he
simply continues to post and adds threads using the identities
of these others, saying and implying things that they would
never actually say. And just look at his current signature line,
doing the exact same thing that he accuses many of us as doing.
Yet, unlike Ari's signature, ours is at least in keeping with
what is acceptable according to the Charter guidelines. Plus,
follow our links, which will lead you to actual and legitimate
connections, affiliations and licensed endeavors. That can't be
said of the associations Ari claims; a website that attracts
spammers, in addition to certifications that have never heard of
him.

Now we all know that this post and information will simply be
met with more lies, negative comments and innuendos by Ari,
staying true to form, with him possibly tying to add clout by
again taking on the identity of some of these other regulars. As
to his bashing of me personally (which in this case will be a
forgone conclusion) one only needs to look to the source. He
hasn't been accurate yet in anything he has said, so it is of
little consequence what he tries to makes up in this reference.
Nothing has changed on my end at all, but apparently this is not
the case with some of the services he claims as leverage in his
dealings. Even they have a problem claiming something that he is
not, and using foul language to boot. What can be done in the
meantime until such antics can be stopped? On our part, that
answer is simple. Totally ignore everything Ari does and says,
don't believe a word of what he tells anyone, be suspicious of
others actually backing and endorsing such behavior (it is
probably just him anyway), and let's simply go about business as
before - minus Ari.

Smooth sailing to all...
John Sisker

From: Stu on 10 Jul 2010 11:18
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:04:35 -0700, "John Sisker" <jsisker(a)sprynet.com>
wrote:

>> Ari Silverstein, C.T.A; C.T.A.S, FREE Cruise Travel Advisory Services
>> www.cruisequick.com - able to offer some of the lowest prices and best
>> value added in the industry. (not affiliated)
>
>WARNING: Using a fake name, Ari's premise is simple... "a lie is
>as good as the truth if he can get someone to believe it." But
>heed this warning; he has tried all of this before. Just look
>back on this newsgroup, and there he will be in all his pathetic
>ugliness. Yet, this time it is much worse. Out to undermine this
>newsgroup to the point that seemingly he alone appears to be the
>only authority on cruising, he not only fabricates everything he
>says, but does much of it by stealing the identity of many
>others, including yours truly, as the means to this end (if a
>posting seems out of character or obscene, be sure to check the.
>Headers - if it's from X-privat or Mixmin, it's a forged post
>from Ari). Besides the identity theft, this time he is blatantly
>stalking many of us into other newsgroups that we frequent, with
>the intent to disturb and spread his lies there as well. It was
>even shown that this is not the only newsgroup that he is trying
>to disturb this way; there are several others as well, even an
>aviation group in which he is apparently stealing the identity
>of actual pilots, where periodic warnings to readers about Ari
>are posted. He has pretended to be a pilot there; here he
>pretends to be a travel agent.
>
>Unfortunately, because of these very antics by Ari, many of the
>regulars have already moved on to other forms of communication,
>including many of the travel agents. And after chasing them
>away by posting vile messages under their names, he chastises
>them for leaving the group. He then tries to fool readers here
>that he is the savior of the group - when in fact he is the
>person who has caused the anarchy here.
>
>Others are simply waiting and hopefully for a time when it is
>safe to rejoin this group. Yet, to Ari, it doesn't matter... he
>simply continues to post and adds threads using the identities
>of these others, saying and implying things that they would
>never actually say. And just look at his current signature line,
>doing the exact same thing that he accuses many of us as doing.
>Yet, unlike Ari's signature, ours is at least in keeping with
>what is acceptable according to the Charter guidelines. Plus,
>follow our links, which will lead you to actual and legitimate
>connections, affiliations and licensed endeavors. That can't be
>said of the associations Ari claims; a website that attracts
>spammers, in addition to certifications that have never heard of
>him.
>
>Now we all know that this post and information will simply be
>met with more lies, negative comments and innuendos by Ari,
>staying true to form, with him possibly tying to add clout by
>again taking on the identity of some of these other regulars. As
>to his bashing of me personally (which in this case will be a
>forgone conclusion) one only needs to look to the source. He
>hasn't been accurate yet in anything he has said, so it is of
>little consequence what he tries to makes up in this reference.
>Nothing has changed on my end at all, but apparently this is not
>the case with some of the services he claims as leverage in his
>dealings. Even they have a problem claiming something that he is
>not, and using foul language to boot. What can be done in the
>meantime until such antics can be stopped? On our part, that
>answer is simple. Totally ignore everything Ari does and says,
>don't believe a word of what he tells anyone, be suspicious of
>others actually backing and endorsing such behavior (it is
>probably just him anyway), and let's simply go about business as
>before - minus Ari.
>
>Smooth sailing to all...
>John Sisker


It's easy to stop John, learn to use your news readers killfile and
block him again and again as he morphs into another name. If you don't
have a newsreader that has the killfile capability, find one and stop
reading this group from google groups because Ari won't stop if you
continue to use google.
From: Stu on 10 Jul 2010 11:29
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:18:57 -0500, Stu wrote:

> It's easy to stop John, learn to use your news readers killfile and
> block him again and again as he morphs into another name. If you don't
> have a newsreader that has the killfile capability, find one and stop
> reading this group from google groups because Ari won't stop if you
> continue to use google.

Sorry John, I didn't see that you used Giganews when trolling rtc. And
Windows Mail for a newsreader. I guess they don't call me Stu-pid for
nothing.
From: Moonpie on 10 Jul 2010 11:59
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:18:57 -0500, Stu wrote:

> It's easy to stop John, learn to use your news readers killfile and
> block him again and again as he morphs into another name. If you don't
> have a newsreader that has the killfile capability, find one and stop
> reading this group from google groups because Ari won't stop if you
> continue to use google.

> I'll call you on your cell (714) 815-7625.

(714) 815-7625 ?
From: tyreah on 10 Jul 2010 12:04
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:04:35 -0700, John Sisker wrote:

> WARNING:

> I'm a hypocrite.

<http://www.travelkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cruises/27805/Look-at-what-has-happened-since-Ray-left>
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