From: gran2496 on
On Jul 14, 7:27 am, Tom K <tkani...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> On 7/14/10 5:23 AM, Charles wrote:
>
> > In article<HIqdnS7q8b9Vy6DRnZ2dnUVZ_oCdn...(a)earthlink.com>, John
> > Sisker<jsis...(a)sprynet.com>  wrote:
>
> >> Yet, of all the suggestions, you almost end up feeling that with
> >> all the talk, there will come a time that you just have to go over to
> >> Victoria anyway; at least to say you're been there - at least once.
>
> >  From what I have been reading the best time to visit Butchart Gardens
> > is on a Saturday night when they do the fireworks display. I love
> > fireworks, more interested in those than in flowers, so I think I would
> > rather save my visit to Victoria/Butchart Gardens for some other time
> > since Saturday evening won't be possible this trip.
>
> I wouldn't mind taking the ferry ride over even if we just stayed a
> little while... just for the ferry ride.  Especially if we have a nice
> sunny day... I imagine the ride on the water would be wonderful.
>
> --Tom

It's a very nice ride over to Victoria on the ferry. Victoria is a
lovely city, great for walking around. If you do go, make sure to go
down Government St. to Roger's Chocolates and buy some Victorian
Creams, if you're a chocolate lover, you won't be sorry.

Lola in Hamilton
From: D Ball on
On 7/14/2010 1:18 AM, John Sisker wrote:
> "Tom K" <tkanitra(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4c3c92a0$0$5000$607ed4bc(a)cv.net...
>> On 7/13/10 5:37 AM, Charles wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is three days on paper but since we will be flying in on Sunday
>>> morning that leaves Sunday afternoon and evening, Monday and Tuesday.
>>> Then embarking on the ship Wednesday morning. I would like to see
>>> Victoria as some have suggested but I am hesitant because that would
>>> take one whole day. We could wing it and decide after we get to
>>> Vancouver and have seen some of it.... which from the quoted text is
>>> what John is suggesting.
>>
>> Maybe a logical plan... let's leave Victoria for the third day, and if
>> we find we've hit enough of Vancouver by then, we do Victoria, but if
>> we find we didn't see enough, we can opt out...
>>
>> --Tom
>
>
>
> Tom,
>
> Ironically, before we even got to visit Vancouver for the very first
> time, whenever we mentioned that we were sailing from Vancouver to just
> about anyone, they would always tell us to go to Victoria. This became
> such a standard dialogue from both family and friends, that on our very
> first visit to Vancouver, we were a bit disappointed that we did not
> have the time to go over to Vancouver Island, and Victoria. Imagine how
> excited we were when on our last cruise from Vancouver, Victoria was
> actually one of our ports of call.
>
> Of course, our next dilemma was, should we plan on a visit to Butchard
> Gardens while in Victoria or not, which again, was a suggestion from
> many others. But, since we did get to see Queen Elizabeth Park/Gardens
> on our first trip to Vancouver, we figured we would opt for something
> else. Besides, back home in Southern California, we have many other
> similar gardens, some of which we have already visited.
>
> As it turned out, we took a city tour of Victoria, since this would be
> out first time there, and would give us a good overview of the City
> itself. However, the real highlight of our time in Victoria was actually
> the time we spend around the Parliament buildings. We found this to be
> the most interesting and picturesque.
>
> Next month, we will sail from Vancouver again; actually flying up two
> days early so we can explore more of the City itself. We have no plans
> to go to Victoria again, we've seen it, and that was enough for us.
> Therefore, it is still our suggestion, see what you can while in
> Vancouver first, then venture out to all the other places the others
> have suggested as time permits. Yet, of all the suggestions, you almost
> end up feeling that with all the talk, there will come a time that you
> just have to go over to Victoria anyway; at least to say you're been
> there - at least once.
>
> Smooth sailing to all...
> John Sisker
>

All good tips, John. You had some great experiences. I would only add
for people who like gardens, there are few in the world that match
Butchart. And for people who don't think they like gardens, it is one
that can change your mind. ;)

Diana Ball
Austin, TX
From: John Sisker on

"D Ball" <diana(a)removespamball.net> wrote in message
news:8a65r5Fk8qU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> On 7/14/2010 1:18 AM, John Sisker wrote:
>> "Tom K" <tkanitra(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:4c3c92a0$0$5000$607ed4bc(a)cv.net...
>>> On 7/13/10 5:37 AM, Charles wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is three days on paper but since we will be flying in on Sunday
>>>> morning that leaves Sunday afternoon and evening, Monday and Tuesday.
>>>> Then embarking on the ship Wednesday morning. I would like to see
>>>> Victoria as some have suggested but I am hesitant because that would
>>>> take one whole day. We could wing it and decide after we get to
>>>> Vancouver and have seen some of it.... which from the quoted text is
>>>> what John is suggesting.
>>>
>>> Maybe a logical plan... let's leave Victoria for the third day, and if
>>> we find we've hit enough of Vancouver by then, we do Victoria, but if
>>> we find we didn't see enough, we can opt out...
>>>
>>> --Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Ironically, before we even got to visit Vancouver for the very first
>> time, whenever we mentioned that we were sailing from Vancouver to just
>> about anyone, they would always tell us to go to Victoria. This became
>> such a standard dialogue from both family and friends, that on our very
>> first visit to Vancouver, we were a bit disappointed that we did not
>> have the time to go over to Vancouver Island, and Victoria. Imagine how
>> excited we were when on our last cruise from Vancouver, Victoria was
>> actually one of our ports of call.
>>
>> Of course, our next dilemma was, should we plan on a visit to Butchard
>> Gardens while in Victoria or not, which again, was a suggestion from
>> many others. But, since we did get to see Queen Elizabeth Park/Gardens
>> on our first trip to Vancouver, we figured we would opt for something
>> else. Besides, back home in Southern California, we have many other
>> similar gardens, some of which we have already visited.
>>
>> As it turned out, we took a city tour of Victoria, since this would be
>> out first time there, and would give us a good overview of the City
>> itself. However, the real highlight of our time in Victoria was actually
>> the time we spend around the Parliament buildings. We found this to be
>> the most interesting and picturesque.
>>
>> Next month, we will sail from Vancouver again; actually flying up two
>> days early so we can explore more of the City itself. We have no plans
>> to go to Victoria again, we've seen it, and that was enough for us.
>> Therefore, it is still our suggestion, see what you can while in
>> Vancouver first, then venture out to all the other places the others
>> have suggested as time permits. Yet, of all the suggestions, you almost
>> end up feeling that with all the talk, there will come a time that you
>> just have to go over to Victoria anyway; at least to say you're been
>> there - at least once.
>>
>> Smooth sailing to all...
>> John Sisker
>>
>
> All good tips, John. You had some great experiences. I would only add for
> people who like gardens, there are few in the world that match Butchart.
> And for people who don't think they like gardens, it is one that can
> change your mind. ;)
>
> Diana Ball
> Austin, TX



I keep hearing that Diana, and until I have really been there myself for
comparison, my advice in this reference is not entirely objective.

John

From: Tom K on
On 7/14/10 11:37 AM, gran2496(a)yahoo.com wrote:

>
> It's a very nice ride over to Victoria on the ferry. Victoria is a
> lovely city, great for walking around. If you do go, make sure to go
> down Government St. to Roger's Chocolates and buy some Victorian
> Creams, if you're a chocolate lover, you won't be sorry.
>
> Lola in Hamilton

Hmmmm... chocolate... that's got "winning bid" all over it... LOL



From: D Ball on
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:26:29 -0700, John Sisker wrote:

> "D Ball" <diana(a)removespamball.net> wrote in message
> news:8a65r5Fk8qU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> On 7/14/2010 1:18 AM, John Sisker wrote:
>>> "Tom K" <tkanitra(a)optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4c3c92a0$0$5000$607ed4bc(a)cv.net...
>>>> On 7/13/10 5:37 AM, Charles wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is three days on paper but since we will be flying in on Sunday
>>>>> morning that leaves Sunday afternoon and evening, Monday and Tuesday.
>>>>> Then embarking on the ship Wednesday morning. I would like to see
>>>>> Victoria as some have suggested but I am hesitant because that would
>>>>> take one whole day. We could wing it and decide after we get to
>>>>> Vancouver and have seen some of it.... which from the quoted text is
>>>>> what John is suggesting.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a logical plan... let's leave Victoria for the third day, and if
>>>> we find we've hit enough of Vancouver by then, we do Victoria, but if
>>>> we find we didn't see enough, we can opt out...
>>>>
>>>> --Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> Ironically, before we even got to visit Vancouver for the very first
>>> time, whenever we mentioned that we were sailing from Vancouver to just
>>> about anyone, they would always tell us to go to Victoria. This became
>>> such a standard dialogue from both family and friends, that on our very
>>> first visit to Vancouver, we were a bit disappointed that we did not
>>> have the time to go over to Vancouver Island, and Victoria. Imagine how
>>> excited we were when on our last cruise from Vancouver, Victoria was
>>> actually one of our ports of call.
>>>
>>> Of course, our next dilemma was, should we plan on a visit to Butchard
>>> Gardens while in Victoria or not, which again, was a suggestion from
>>> many others. But, since we did get to see Queen Elizabeth Park/Gardens
>>> on our first trip to Vancouver, we figured we would opt for something
>>> else. Besides, back home in Southern California, we have many other
>>> similar gardens, some of which we have already visited.
>>>
>>> As it turned out, we took a city tour of Victoria, since this would be
>>> out first time there, and would give us a good overview of the City
>>> itself. However, the real highlight of our time in Victoria was actually
>>> the time we spend around the Parliament buildings. We found this to be
>>> the most interesting and picturesque.
>>>
>>> Next month, we will sail from Vancouver again; actually flying up two
>>> days early so we can explore more of the City itself. We have no plans
>>> to go to Victoria again, we've seen it, and that was enough for us.
>>> Therefore, it is still our suggestion, see what you can while in
>>> Vancouver first, then venture out to all the other places the others
>>> have suggested as time permits. Yet, of all the suggestions, you almost
>>> end up feeling that with all the talk, there will come a time that you
>>> just have to go over to Victoria anyway; at least to say you're been
>>> there - at least once.
>>>
>>> Smooth sailing to all...
>>> John Sisker
>>>
>>
>> All good tips, John. You had some great experiences. I would only add for
>> people who like gardens, there are few in the world that match Butchart.
>> And for people who don't think they like gardens, it is one that can
>> change your mind. ;)
>>
>> Diana Ball
>> Austin, TX
>
> I keep hearing that Diana, and until I have really been there myself for
> comparison, my advice in this reference is not entirely objective.
>
> John

No problems, John, you are now one of us since you have been accepted
by King Charles himself!

Welcome to perfection!

Diana Balls
Austin, TX