From: Jerry Okamura on
First you make it a requirement, that eveyone has to show a valid ID at the
airport, then once you get them to accept that, they you can raise the cost
of that ID. The one thing is that unless you are leaving this country, you
can avoid spending the money for a passport. But if you want to travel and
you do not have a whole lot of money to spend, they have just succeeded in
making it more difficulat for some people to travel to these wonerful
foreign lands.


"Earl Evleth" <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C85A71BB.1B9343%evleth(a)wanadoo.fr...
> (CNN) -- Get ready to open your wallet a little wider to satisfy your
> travel
> bug: It is soon going to cost more to apply for a new U.S. passport or
> renew
> an old one -- a move criticized by the public and some lawmakers.
>
> Starting next Tuesday, adults applying for their first passport book will
> have to pay $135 -- a 35 percent increase from the current $100 fee.
> (The cost of the wallet-size passport card, which Americans can use on
> certain trips closer to home, is rising from $45 to $55 for first-time
> applicants.)
>
> Want to add more visa pages to your passport book? It's free now, but you
> will have to shell out $82 under the new fee schedule.
> The renewal fee for passport books will rise to $110 -- up from the
> current
> $75.
>
> There's even a new fee if you'd like formally to renounce your U.S.
> citizenship -- it costs nothing now, but the price tag will be $450
> starting
> Tuesday.
>
> (the French runs 85 euros)
>
> ***
>
> The $450 to renounce! I wonder why so much? I would think would could
> just send one's passport in to the Statement Department along with
> a written declaration, "I'm quitting". So one stops paying US Taxes
> and only pays the inheritance tax in the country one does have
> citizenship.
>

From: Earl Evleth on
On 18/07/10 21:18, in article 2sI0o.29093$Zi.14339(a)newsfe14.iad, "Jerry
Okamura" <okamuraj005(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> First you make it a requirement, that eveyone has to show a valid ID at the
> airport,

They do that already and always have in France. A passport control
of incoming people always has occurred.

>then once you get them to accept that,

Who are them? Those entering or controlling?

> they you can raise the cost of that ID.

I don't believe that incoming arrivals pay an ID fee. I never did.

There can be a fee for getting a visa if you are a visiting foreigner.
If you are a national renentering your own country there is generally
not a fee.

> The one thing is that unless you are leaving this country, you
> can avoid spending the money for a passport.

In Europe people enter and leave a number of countries and think
nothing about it. No fees.



From: Bill Bonde on
Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 18/07/10 21:18, in article 2sI0o.29093$Zi.14339(a)newsfe14.iad, "Jerry
> Okamura"<okamuraj005(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:


>
>> The one thing is that unless you are leaving this country, you
>> can avoid spending the money for a passport.
>
> In Europe people enter and leave a number of countries and think
> nothing about it. No fees.
>
I once saw a sticker on a rally vehicle that said "No Trees, Please".
This gives me an idea on what to stamp on luggage.


From: Jerry Okamura on

"Earl Evleth" <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:C8692238.1BB261%evleth(a)wanadoo.fr...
> On 18/07/10 21:18, in article 2sI0o.29093$Zi.14339(a)newsfe14.iad, "Jerry
> Okamura" <okamuraj005(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> First you make it a requirement, that eveyone has to show a valid ID at
>> the
>> airport,
>
> They do that already and always have in France. A passport control
> of incoming people always has occurred.

For ALL people flying?
>
>>then once you get them to accept that,
>
> Who are them? Those entering or controlling?

The "people".
>
>> they you can raise the cost of that ID.
>
> I don't believe that incoming arrivals pay an ID fee. I never did.

The cost of the passport.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 19/07/10 5:09, in article JlP0o.14145$Hw.10879(a)newsfe10.iad, "Jerry
Okamura" <okamuraj005(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> They do that already and always have in France. A passport control
>> of incoming people always has occurred.
>
> For ALL people flying?

For those flying and and out of Schengen countries.
Flying within them Is like the US, one needs a picture ID

>>
>>> then once you get them to accept that,
>>
>> Who are them? Those entering or controlling?
>
> The "people".
>>
>>> they you can raise the cost of that ID.
>>
>> I don't believe that incoming arrivals pay an ID fee. I never did.
>
> The cost of the passport.

Yes, but no passport is required for air travel within France or
the Schengens French ID cards are free in France and one can fly with the
Schengen's on that.