From: Runge122 on
Heaps of US expats and refugees...Whata lovely country with all it's
citizens trying to get out of it !
Send evleth to Chicago !

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : r0na36hjesdh5a9oatuf15f9oh57ckqvai(a)
> Earl Evleth writes:
>> (CNN) -- Get ready to open your wallet a little wider to satisfy your
>> travel
>> bug: It is soon going to cost more to apply for a new U.S. passport or
>> renew
>> an old one -- a move criticized by the public and some lawmakers.
> I believe there's a private company that actually makes the passports.
> They
> probably need more profit.
> Never give private enterprise a monopoly.
>> There's even a new fee if you'd like formally to renounce your U.S.
>> citizenship -- it costs nothing now, but the price tag will be $450
>> starting
>> Tuesday.
> And if a citizen renounces it without paying, what's the penalty?
> Charging a
> fee is likely billing for a will: whether it's paid for or not, it's still
> valid.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 7/07/10 22:50, in article 4c34e961(a), "Bill Bonde"
<trybootilltinpaint(a)> wrote:

> Have piston, will travel?

Piston means a person has influential friends

From: Earl Evleth on
On 8/07/10 0:05, in article 1jla83t.adw7dm1b46ur4N%d4g4h4(a),
"David Horne" <d4g4h4(a)> wrote:

> They're not free. You just don't have to pay for them (assuming you're
> right.) Happen to know the actual cost of them?


From: Earl Evleth on
On 8/07/10 0:13, in article
bf2df105-e059-4860-89ad-161bce4a219f(a), "AndyS"
<andysharpe(a)> wrote:

> That's OK until they try to leave something to an American
> relative, or maybe sell some American property to an
> American.

People renouncing US citizenship will have taken the precaution
of removing all assets from the USA before doing so.

One estimate I have seen is that only about half of overseas
American citizens comply with US tax law. They are mostly small
people not having much. The rich dodgers are in the minority.
The IRS does few overseas audits and only on those people
who file normally, like ourselves. Chasing the non-compliers
is not each.

> Lots of things can be "gotten away with"
> regarding the IRS, but, once someone gets their
> attention, they will probably find a way to inject
> themselves in the economic equation.....
> Depending on the political climate, the European
> country may cooperate with the US IRS and seize
> assetts. I wouldn't risk it .

Yes, for instance, there is an exchange of information agreement
between the French fisc and the IRS. How often this is used
I don't know. I found that IRS auditors sent to France to audit
us knew little French. Officially the IRS requires one to
file translations of French documents including one's French tax
return. But in over 30 years of being here the IRS has never
asked for that.

But this is not respected.
For the IRS to get to one's French bank account records is a legal hassle.
Basically what the IRS can do and does do are very far apart.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 8/07/10 7:05, in article r0na36hjesdh5a9oatuf15f9oh57ckqvai(a),
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)> wrote:

> I believe there's a private company that actually makes the passports. They
> probably need more profit.

Government fees have been going up for years. We have a friend nearing
the end of a paper chase to bring his wife in from Ghana. The fees are
very very high, and they seem layered, one on top of another.

In France, applying for French nationality is free. But if awarded
there is a large fee for setting your documents up on their central
computer in Nantes. I don't know about that case but in some cases
the French government fees depend on one's income.