From: Earl Evleth on
On 8/07/10 9:42, in article p70b36hf28l5i1v25183cf1o4t2e963g6o(a)4ax.com,
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> They come after "you" except that I don't know of any cases of that
>> happening.
>
> But how can they come after someone who has renounced his or her citizenship?

The Franco-America tax treaty has a clause in which if an American
renounces citizenship for tax reasons, they are still subject to taxation
for 10 years.

The trick there in renouncing is to renounce for other reasons. I would
claim in my case that I longer intend to live in the USA.

>> By treating they could attach your French bank accounts,
>> or get a court order and have you hunted down by a huissier.
>
> I have to wonder how eager the French would be to accommodate the IRS. Would
> the IRS similarly accommodate the French fisc?

I one case in my family my father had a business relationship with a
Frenchman who ran a business in California (he introduced the diving
lung into the USA from France, it was patented by Cousteau). The Frenchman
eventually sold his American business with a multi-million dollar capital
gain and took the money back France. The IRS pursued him to no avail. My
father was interviewed by the IRS but in fact knew nothing about the
Frenchman's tax situation. The French fisc did not get involved. They may
have had pleasure in seeing one of their countrymen screw the Americans!



>> We personally comply, I like sleeping at night not worrying.
>> It is pay off money, like the Mafia.
>
> But you are still a U.S. citizen, no?

Yes, we also took French citizenship over 20 yrs ago.

> The question concerned those who give
> up citizenship.

It is a possibility which arises.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 8/07/10 11:56, in article U6-dnYsJSt8mPajRnZ2dnUVZ8mSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com,
"John Rennie" <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> wrote:

>> Piston means a person has influential friends
>>
> No it doesn't; it means you've been pissed on.


Got your local definition, the French dictionary explains


Protection, appui en vue d'obtenir un avantage [Familier]. Anglais
string-pulling

From: BP killed my turtle on
On Jul 8, 1:18 pm, Magda <pikroda...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:29:24 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean O'Boyle"
> <job1...(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>  ... I, or one, am proud to be an American and do not hide it.
>
> Someone please explain to me what sort of "pride" can be found in *being born* some place
> or other?
>
> Not a great feat at all - not even a microscopic challenge, is it?
>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

being born in a swamp was runges greatest achievement
From: BP killed my turtle on
On Jul 8, 1:40 pm, Magda <pikroda...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 04:21:31 -0700 (PDT), in rec.travel.europe, BP killed my turtle
> <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>  ... On Jul 8, 1:18 pm, Magda <pikroda...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  ... > On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:29:24 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean O'Boyle"
>  ... > <job1...(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>  ... >
>  ... >  ... I, or one, am proud to be an American and do not hide it.
>  ... >
>  ... > Someone please explain to me what sort of "pride" can be found in *being born* some place
>  ... > or other?
>  ... >
>  ... > Not a great feat at all - not even a microscopic challenge, is it?
>  ...
>  ... being born in a swamp was runges greatest achievement
>
> Runge who? :)
>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

this bloke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLqXdlRyJaw
From: John Rennie on
Magda wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:29:24 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean O'Boyle"
> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... I, or one, am proud to be an American and do not hide it.
>
> Someone please explain to me what sort of "pride" can be found in *being born* some place
> or other?
>
> Not a great feat at all - not even a microscopic challenge, is it?
>
>
>
> =====
> It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does.

I'm not proud to Be British, neither am I ashamed.
Just a bit relieved.