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From: Jean O'Boyle on 8 Jul 2010 18:19 "Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:klic36ta049ggfj39rg0clad247sl42hvb(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:01:42 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" > <job1930(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>"Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>news:9aic36134ksvg71mgpdf1368t3n3jphuls(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:48:42 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" >>> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Magda" <pikrodafni(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:9dhc365mbsmf4h5lmseq9rk8uai1i78074(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:06:29 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean >>>>> O'Boyle" >>>>> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> ... If it must be explained to you, you are comprehensibly challenged. >>>>> >>>>> Would you mind saying it in proper English? >>>>> >>>> >>>>Look the word up in a dictionary if you don't understand...it IS >>>>English. >>> >>> It's not a word, it's a phrase, "comprehensibly challenged", >>> which is hard to fathom. >> >> >>You want something simple....ok...you apparently do not understand what is >>being said, >>or you are having problems understanding what is being said. > > Oh, I don't have that much trouble understanding what users of > bad English are saying, just pointing out that your comment to > look it up in the dictionary wasn't a particualry good response. Oh, I see, but her sarcasm was a good response. > ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* > * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * > * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 8 Jul 2010 18:21 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:19:54 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" <job1930(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >"Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message >news:klic36ta049ggfj39rg0clad247sl42hvb(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:01:42 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" >> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:9aic36134ksvg71mgpdf1368t3n3jphuls(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:48:42 -0500, "Jean O'Boyle" >>>> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Magda" <pikrodafni(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:9dhc365mbsmf4h5lmseq9rk8uai1i78074(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:06:29 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean >>>>>> O'Boyle" >>>>>> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> ... If it must be explained to you, you are comprehensibly challenged. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would you mind saying it in proper English? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Look the word up in a dictionary if you don't understand...it IS >>>>>English. >>>> >>>> It's not a word, it's a phrase, "comprehensibly challenged", >>>> which is hard to fathom. >>> >>> >>>You want something simple....ok...you apparently do not understand what is >>>being said, >>>or you are having problems understanding what is being said. >> >> Oh, I don't have that much trouble understanding what users of >> bad English are saying, just pointing out that your comment to >> look it up in the dictionary wasn't a particualry good response. > > >Oh, I see, but her sarcasm was a good response. As logn as we're on pots and kettles, what shall we say about your sarcasm to me? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Bill Bonde on 8 Jul 2010 21:08 Donna Evleth wrote: > > >> From: Magda<pikrodafni(a)gmail.com> >> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider >> Reply-To:<> >> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe >> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:18:59 +0200 >> Subject: Re: Big hike in US passport fees, $450 to renounce citizenship! >> >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:29:24 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "Jean O'Boyle" >> <job1930(a)yahoo.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: >> >> >> ... I, or one, am proud to be an American and do not hide it. >> >> Someone please explain to me what sort of "pride" can be found in *being born* >> some place >> or other? >> What pride do people feel for their football team, I mean when they win. Of course "White Pride" is racist, but "Black Pride" and "La Raza" are OK. >> Not a great feat at all - not even a microscopic challenge, is it? > > I have never valued, for myself, "accidents of birth", such as nationality, > gender, race. What I value is what I have accomplished. Not my ancestors, > not my relatives, not even my husband. Just me. And I proud of my > accomplishments. I am a scholar, having written and published scholarly > articles which are respected and cited by my peers. This is much more > important to me than being born of any given race or nationality. > > There were a number of people in the 1930s and 1940s who emigrated to the US > from oppressive countries. They made great contributions to science, in > particular, in the US. > Like the atomic bomb.
From: Earl Evleth on 9 Jul 2010 02:11 On 8/07/10 21:41, in article 1jlbw5i.xuxuzf1msgzrzN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk, "David Horne" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> They're not free. You just don't have to pay for them (assuming you're >>> right.) Happen to know the actual cost of them? >> >> Nope. > > What a surprise. That they are free? The socialist government pushed that. I have seen no cost estimates nor any cost-efficiency. Some social programs carry an "profit", like prenatal care under French Socialized Medicine. The card is first issued free, but if lost there is a 25 euros fee for replacing it. In any case, the ID situation in France was easily solved, no question of using of driver's licenses (50 states 50 different ones) as in the USA. Clearly inefficient, terminally stupid. They can be used in France but there again, there is one driver's license for the whole country.
From: Earl Evleth on 9 Jul 2010 02:20
On 8/07/10 23:08, in article 1jlc04v.1spxd131kq5zyyN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk, "David Horne" <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > It requires no skill to be born somewhere, so I don't understand the > pride in it either. I think that for some it gives them identity. I noticed several times the line for "belongers" at the BVI airport, these are for people born there, the term "belongers" projects the feeling o belonging there. On the other had, as a person born in Chicago I not only do not feel I belong there, I don't want to be there! Having been living in France 35 years and now having French citizenship I don't have that feeling o belonging here, I have a legal right to be here and that is sufficient. And not only do I have a legal right, via tax payments made over the years I merit that right. In addition the legal right to be here also involves responsibilities. Many talk about their rights, and few about the other side of that coin. |