From: Tchiowa on 17 Jul 2006 22:23
Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2006 18:52:08 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> >> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:24:59 -0700, Go Fig <gofig(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >> >In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
> >> ><mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Tchiowa writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the
> >> >> > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs
> >> >> > while ignoring tomorrow's.
> >> >>
> >> >> None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine.
> >> >
> >> >So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ?
> >> When you think of quality of life, do you think of the USA?
> >I've been in 40 or 50 countries on 5 continents. I've lived and worked
> >in dozens of countries on 5 continents. When I think of quality of
> >life, the US is head and shoulders above most of the others. The only
> >one that comes even close is Australia. Europe doesn't have a country
> >that's even in the running. There are several Asian countries I would
> >put above most of Europe.
> >Here's a list of the top of my head. I'm sure I missed a few: Angola,
> >Australia, Belgium, Benin, Cambodia, Canada, China, Congo - DR, Congo -
> >R, Denmark, England, Fiji, Finland, Germany, Germany - East (before
> >unification), Hong Kong (before unification), Hungary, India,
> >Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Korea - South, Latvia, Macau
> >(before unification), Malaysia, Monaco, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands,
> >Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua Niugini, Philippines, Portugal, Russia,
> >Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, US, Vietnam.
> I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest.
You asked a question and I gave an answer. Of course the phrasing and
context of your question implied an expected negative response. So I
guess you were trying to start a pissing contest.
The fact is that the US quality of life is top of the heap.
From: mrtravel on 17 Jul 2006 23:13
> Tchiowa writes:
>>Socialism is *killing* France. What do you think is behind the 10%+
>>unemployment that they just can't bring down?
> Who said anything about the country in general? I was talking about
> its national healthcare system.
Have you asked the French what they thought of their system?
From: Jordi on 18 Jul 2006 02:55
> > Still nonsense. You can't put Medical care, socialism and food in a
> > single sentence without looking quite silly.
> Of course you can. Socialism has been tried in both medical care and
> food and fails in both. Those who don't want to give up on this failed
> social experiment refuse to understand that.
Repeating your failed statements will not make them any more true.
> > >
> > > Then why are you supporting Socialized medicine? It is going bankrupt.
> > > And then you won't have to worry about going bankrupt yourself for
> > > medical treatment because it wont' be available.
> > I look at the figures and it's better and cheaper, for me and the
> > community.
> And failing. Why do you refuse to look at *that* figure.
It is not failing despite whatever you've been told. Go please get a
From: Jordi on 18 Jul 2006 03:09
> You asked a question and I gave an answer. Of course the phrasing and
> context of your question implied an expected negative response. So I
> guess you were trying to start a pissing contest.
> The fact is that the US quality of life is top of the heap.
Actually the US comes at No. 10 on 2005 UNDP report. Norway, Iceland,
Australia, Luxembourg, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland and Belgium
all come first.
From: The Reid on 18 Jul 2006 04:01
Following up to Tchiowa
>I think you missed a chunk yourself.
>Note that I can own 3 cars and a lot of stuff that I want (never mind
>if *you* or someone else thinks it's useless)
what you probably don't get is that that lifestyle isnt
supportable. We need to consume less, work less and pollute less,
its not really anything to do with what I think is useless.
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