Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Tchiowa on 31 Jul 2006 20:07 Dave Frightens Me wrote: > On 30 Jul 2006 17:55:23 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: > > >> Yeah, blah blah blah... > >> > >> You seem to continually ignore that it's working just fine in a large > >> number of very affluent countries. > > > >You seem to continually ignore the fact that it is in fact *failing* in > >all those large, affluent countries. You can almost graph the level of > >Socialism and the high rate of unemployment and see the parallel. The > >more Socialism the slower the economy is growing and the higher the > >unemployment. > > > >France. > > > >Germany. > > Japan? Australia? Australia is anything *but* Socialist, compared to France and Germany. Japan's economy has been flat for 2 decades. Care to try again?
From: Jim Ley on 31 Jul 2006 20:09 On 31 Jul 2006 16:59:47 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Interesting about the vacation thing. As I have posted before, new >employees get 1 week vacation the first year and 2 weeks vacation per >year for the next few years. In almost all companies it's 3-4 weeks >after 5 years. So it's 3-4 weeks once you've gained 5 years experience - http://www.bls.gov/nls/y79r20jobsbyedu.pdf suggests that between 18 and 38 the average is 10 jobs, now of course it's likely a number of those are very short before you settle on one, however the number of unemployment spells indicate that it's unlikely that all those people are in the same job post 30, see http://www.bls.gov/nls/y79r20unempbyage.pdf So if you're right and you need 5 years experience to get 3 or 4 weeks, then lots of people rarely attain this. Jim.
From: dgs on 31 Jul 2006 21:53 Mxsmanic wrote: > What is the difference between professionals and non-professionals? You don't know, then? Really? Can't say I'm terribly surprised. -- dgs
From: Tchiowa on 31 Jul 2006 23:31 Jim Ley wrote: > On 31 Jul 2006 16:59:47 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Interesting about the vacation thing. As I have posted before, new > >employees get 1 week vacation the first year and 2 weeks vacation per > >year for the next few years. In almost all companies it's 3-4 weeks > >after 5 years. > > So it's 3-4 weeks once you've gained 5 years experience - > > http://www.bls.gov/nls/y79r20jobsbyedu.pdf > > suggests that between 18 and 38 the average is 10 jobs, now of course > it's likely a number of those are very short before you settle on one, > however the number of unemployment spells indicate that it's unlikely > that all those people are in the same job post 30, see > > http://www.bls.gov/nls/y79r20unempbyage.pdf > > So if you're right and you need 5 years experience to get 3 or 4 > weeks, then lots of people rarely attain this. "Lots of people"? Maybe. The majority of people end up staying at one job for quite some time. You're right in your first conclusion that young people often change jobs very frequently. If they do that, why should their boss give them paid vacation? Or more than a week or so? I would guess just from personal experience that by the time people are 25-30 years old, the vast majority are in the job that they are going to be doing for a very long time. And then they are getting plenty of vacation. Vacation that they have "earned".
From: Mxsmanic on 1 Aug 2006 00:57
JohnT writes: > You really don't know? What is the difference between professionals and non-professionals? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |