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Tchiowa writes:

> Sure they do. Look at them again. After about age 28 the mean
> unemployment stint is far less than 1.
> > >You're right in your first conclusion that
> > >young people often change jobs very frequently. If they do that, why
> > >should their boss give them paid vacation? Or more than a week or so?
> >
> > I made no value judgement, I was simply giving evidence that made your
> > claim that people get 3 to 4 weeks are normal, and getting less
> > because they are new to the job was abnormal.
> It's the standard rule. The overwhelming majority of companies in the
> US have vacation structured like that.
> > >I would guess just from personal experience that by the time people are
> > >25-30 years old, the vast majority are in the job that they are going
> > >to be doing for a very long time. And then they are getting plenty of
> > >vacation. Vacation that they have "earned".
> >
> > So your personal experience is not supported by the stastitcs from the
> > bureau of labor statistics, so maybe you should stop talking from
> > personal experience, and start looking beyond your small personal
> > sample set.
> You need to take another look at the statistics and learn how to read
> them.

Which statistics are you looking at?

The overall unemployment rate is about 4.6 percent in the U.S. for
workers over age 20. The number of people in the workforce in that
same cohort is about 142,000,000. If the average person works for 40
years of 52 weeks, the total number of weeks worked is 2080. If the
unemployment rate is 4.6 percent, that means that about 95 weeks are
spent unemployed over a lifetime. The average duration of a period of
employment is five weeks. This implies that the average worker
changes jobs some nineteen times after age 20. In practice, that
means that some people change jobs a lot more than 19 times, and some
change hardly at all; but in the absence of some really strong skewing
in the population, it also implies that everyone changes jobs at least
a few times over his or her working lifetime, even after age 20.

All my data comes from the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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Tchiowa writes:

> Actually most job changes *do* have a period of unemployment. But
> regardless, the stats you posted don't say one way or the other. But
> they clearly say that people over 28 tend to stay employed and not move
> around which is what I said. After the early 30s something like 70% or
> more stay in their jobs.

Where are these statistics?

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Tchiowa writes:

> They say exactly that. I cited the specifics.

No, they do not. Which specifics did you cite?

The BLS shows the turnover rate as being about 3.3% annually. This
implies that the chances of changing one's job each year are about
3.3%. Over 40 years, this implies that there is a 74% chance that the
average person will change jobs. This in turn implies that very few
people keep the same job for a lifetime, even in adulthood.

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Dave Frightens Me writes:

> With an excellent public health system and welfare. Aren't these the
> earmarks of a socialist nation?


> Flat? So far from failing then.

If it is flat, then _any_ negative change could count as "failing."

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Keith W writes:

> Such as whom ?

Whomever they can conquer.

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