Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Mxsmanic on 3 Aug 2006 02:58 David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate writes: > Not really. It's more common in the UK to refer to MSF in the singular. Most organizations are referred to in the plural in the UK, for reasons I have already explained. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 3 Aug 2006 03:01 Carole Allen writes: > I know drs, accountants, nurses, teachers, personally and I know they > have to maintain continuing education credits. Oh, and court > reporters are also required to do so. The fact that I don't > specifically know the exact number of credits for various professions > is irrelevant. I know these people and they are required to take > approved courses on an annual basis. Anecdotal evidence. Once again, it's okay when other people use it, but unacceptable when I use it. > My landscaper brother is not required to take such credits. Neither > is my niece who manages a retail store. My nephew, the teacher, who > has a Master's Degree, is required to do so. So it's hardly universal. > The fact that they are not required in IT (or at least in your > experience in IT) might explain why your specific skill set (whatever > it might be, since you refuse to divulge any details here) is not > providing you with a job in IT. No, the fact that they are not required to do so in IT simply means that it is a relatively young profession in which protectionism has not yet taken hold. Credentialism is a form of protectionism that is intended to artificially restrict the market in favor of service providers. The main reason why professional associations impose credentialing requirements and lobby for government regulation is not to help the consumer, but to limit new entries into the field and protect the livelihoods of those who are already there. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 3 Aug 2006 03:18 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and > deansgate writes: > > > Not really. It's more common in the UK to refer to MSF in the singular. > > Most organizations are referred to in the plural in the UK, for > reasons I have already explained. No you haven't, and no they're not. What on earth are you on about? What do you teach again? -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: Jordi on 3 Aug 2006 03:19 Tchiowa wrote: > Jordi wrote: > > Tchiowa wrote: > > > Jordi wrote: > > > > > > > > You have a problem not only with interpreting statistics but also with > > > > reading comprehension. > > > > > > Let's look again: > > > > > > http://www.bls.gov/opub/working/page13b.htm > > > > > > The median (and that means half do better than that) of time on the job > > > *WITH THE SAME EMPLOYER* is about 5 years for people in their 30's > > > (which completely contradicts your claim that 70% have been there less > > > than 5 years) and climbs up to 10 as people get older. Steady growth > > > with age. > > > > For the age group 35-39 the median in your chart is 4,8 for men, and > > 3,7 for women. > > > > Median values over 5 happen at 40-44 for men and 45-49 for women, which > > clearly contradict your earlier statements of 28. > > 28 came from the previous data. So the true figure is a few years > higher than that? 40-44 for men, 45-49 for women, thats quite near retirement. Thats a good 14 and 19 years over your numbers. Possibly. But the point is that half the people over > 35 get the full complement of vacation which completely contradicts > what you and others were saying. You asked for stats, you got them. > Apparently you didn't like them. Not again, less than half the males aged 35-39 have 4-week holidays (even less females). Again, the breakpoint is at 40-44 for men and 45-49 for women. Better read your own sources better. > > > In fact that same chart shows that half the people over 40 and way over > > > half the people over 50 have been in their jobs long enough to get 4 > > > weeks of vacation. > > > > Big deal, how is that in % respect the total workforce? > > Again, the point was that people stay in their jobs longer as they get > older. Not magic, maturity. You are missing the point, this discussion came right after you claimed this: "I would guess just from personal experience that by the time people are 25-30 years old, the vast majority are in the job that they are going to be doing for a very long time. And then they are getting plenty of vacation. Vacation that they have "earned". " If the majority of people get their first 4-week vacation at 40-44, that means they took the job between 35-39, which contradicts you earlier claims that 'after 28 people don't normally change jobs'. You've been proved wrong, and now pretend what you said on the first time was that. > The stats proved you wrong. Including your statement above that most > Americans "even at mature age" don't stay in their jobs and get the > full vacations. Please cite where I said that. J.
From: Tchiowa on 3 Aug 2006 04:10
Mxsmanic wrote: > Tchiowa writes: > > > You don't have to do that. You just change. New laws in the past > > decade. The original phone company that put in the land lines is > > required by law to share them with other providers. All I have to do is > > ask and my service is changed. > > How do they change the local loop without any physical intervention? No need for physical intervention. > How do you change water or sewer companies? Can't. Got me on that one. > > It costs me nothing to change phone companies. It costs me nothing to > > change electrical providers. And it costs me nothing to change health > > care insurers. > > So do you choose the cheapest provider each time you make a call, or > each time you plug something into the wall? ???? What does that have to do with being a monopoly???? |