From: Mxsmanic on
Tchiowa writes:

> Do you have any idea how it works?

Yes. Wires lead from the service provider to your house. Electricity
flows through these wires. To receive power from a different
provider, you need wires that physically lead to a different source.
Changing providers therefore requires a change in wiring. There is no
practical way to accomplish this short of running multiple power
supplies to every residence and office, and connecting only the supply
that the customer wants. Obviously, that is not done.

> I pay for the electricity, not the wires. They all flow across
> the same wires.

Then how does a given provider ensure that you are using electricity
generated only by that provider?

> No you don't. You have one payer and one system.

No, you don't. Doctors work in private practice and are reimbursed by
Social Security. The same is true for hospitals. There is also a
system of entirely public hospitals with staff physicians. You can go
to the public facilities for free, or you can go to private providers
who accept Social Security as payment in full, or you can go to
private providers who accept SS as partial payment and you pay the
rest. You can also contract for private insurance for anything that
Social Security does not pay. It costs a few dozen euro per month.

> Name the example.

Passenger train service, public transit, water supply, sewer service,
garbage collection.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Tchiowa writes:

> Abuse from the Greek, inefficient from the Latin, corrup from the
> French. That it?

No. The word _govern_ comes ultimately from Greek, via Latin and
French.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Tchiowa writes:

> Of course it did! The US economy has been growing every quarter for 5
> years!

Five whole years? Wow.

> Nonsense. There hasn't been a recession since 2001. What are you
> talking about?

Constant recessions.

> You said "deficit", not debt. Deficit is current. Our debts is lower
> than France or Germany or Japan.

But much higher than Russia or China.

> You consider those "developed countries", do you?

Do developed countries have some special license to increase public
debt without limit?

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From: Keith W on

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hatunen writes:
>
>> You could probably have two with some more wiring and two bills a
>> month.
>
> How much does it cost and how long does it take to change providers
> for your local loop?
>

In Britain if you live in a cable tv enabled area you change
the local loop provides in a day or so for nothing

Keith


From: Keith W on

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tchiowa writes:
>
>> Do you have any idea how it works?
>
> Yes. Wires lead from the service provider to your house. Electricity
> flows through these wires. To receive power from a different
> provider, you need wires that physically lead to a different source.

Incorrect


> Changing providers therefore requires a change in wiring. There is no
> practical way to accomplish this short of running multiple power
> supplies to every residence and office, and connecting only the supply
> that the customer wants. Obviously, that is not done.
>

Flat wrong

In the UK the infrastructure (the wiring or piping for gas) is run by a
heavily
regulated company that charges the provider a fixed fee. The provider is
hooked
into the infrastructure as is the customer.

As a customer all I need to do to switch provider is make a phone call.

Keith