From: dgs on 3 Aug 2006 19:58
> Over what period?
The one at the end of this sentence, numbnuts.
From: dgs on 3 Aug 2006 20:00
> Then why do the British refer to organizations with plural forms of
Because they can.
Why are you such a yammering idiot?
From: Tchiowa on 3 Aug 2006 20:17
Keith W wrote:
> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> No, you don't. Doctors work in private practice and are reimbursed by
> >> Social Security. The same is true for hospitals. There is also a
> >> system of entirely public hospitals with staff physicians. You can go
> >> to the public facilities for free, or you can go to private providers
> >> who accept Social Security as payment in full, or you can go to
> >> private providers who accept SS as partial payment and you pay the
> >> rest. You can also contract for private insurance for anything that
> >> Social Security does not pay. It costs a few dozen euro per month.
> > Not with NHS.
> > You go where you're told to doctors with controlled rates and use drugs
> > with controlled prices.
> Well no unless you count FREE as a controlled rate.
As I pointed out to TR, they are not "free". Someone is paying for
them. And the charges for drugs and treatments are all set by the NHS.
They will pay the doctor for you at a rate that they have set. That's
controlled rates. Controlled wages and prices. The US tried that under
Nixon. The runaway inflation under Carter was in part caused by Nixon's
dumb attempt to control prices and wages.
> Under the UK NHS you register with a doctor , there are no fees for
> consultations or treatment and drugs are subject to a fixed prescription
> charge no matter how expensive they are. You can choose to pay a one
> off fee of £6.65 or a prepaid prescrption certificate which is much cheaper.
Which is exactly what I do with my carrier.
> The unemployed , retired, children, pregnant woman and low paid groups
> are exempt from these prescription charges.
> If you are travelling within the country and need to see another doctor
> you just go into any local doctors office, fill in a short form and
> see him, again no fee is charged.
And if you are travelling outside the country?
My insurance covers me around the world.
> You are quite at liberty to go to a fee charging private doctor and he
> can prescribe drugs which are then bought at full price but for obvious
> reasons few people do this.
> Primary health care (access to your local GP) is actually very good
> under the NHS and even those people who have private health
> insurance , like myself, still use the NHS doctors at local level.
> The only time I would resort to my private health cover is when
> hospital admission is required and even there the surgeon
> who operates on me will likely be the same one who works
> in the local NHS hospital. Mostly what I get for my money
> is improved hotel services in hospital, a private room instead
> of a public ward etc.
> As a result private health cover in the UK is essentially a topup
> to the public service and is MUCH cheaper than in the USA
> as I know having lived in Ohio for 3 years.
Interesting descriptions. What I'd want to point out the most is that
you have the option of private health care. But only because you can
afford to pay for health care twice: once in your taxes and again with
your private insurer. Most people can't. So what NHS has created is a
2-tier health care system. One for the rich or fairly well to do and a
lower level of service for most.
From: dgs on 3 Aug 2006 20:22
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:20:48 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>>What is a "professional body"?
> Something you do not belong to.
And, if fortune stays with us, never will.
From: dgs on 3 Aug 2006 20:24
> That is a circular argument.
What is a circular argument?