From: Hatunen on
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:32:01 -0500, barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk
wrote:

>In article <femed2hnsh2lf6101lpj4j97mu9ts2vshr(a)4ax.com>,
>mxsmanic(a)gmail.com (Mxsmanic) wrote:
>
>> *From:* Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>> *Date:* Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:19:41 +0200
>>
>> You just did. You said credentials can be interpreted as shorthand
>> for a near-guarantee of performance. Therefore, if I buy credentials,
>> I acquire the ability to perform.
>
>If we're being pedantic, I could point out that I didn't say good or
>competent performance: poor credentials, such as those bought on the
>Internet for $40, might be a strong indicator if not a near-guarantee of
>poor performance.
>
>But you're being pointlessly literal-minded now, because you must know
>that those are not the kind of credentials I meant.

There's a word for it: sophistry.

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From: Hatunen on
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:19:15 -0500, barney2(a)cix.compulink.co.uk
wrote:

>In article <1154943173.876105.197210(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com (Tchiowa) wrote:
>
>> *From:* "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com>
>> *Date:* 7 Aug 2006 02:32:53 -0700
>>
>>
>> Keith W wrote:
>> > "Hatunen" <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:21ddd2h1i3aoampcrahikv34uthdhie0k4(a)4ax.com...
>
>> > > There are also
>> > > price controls on what the NHS pays manufacturers for the likes
>> > > of pharmaceuticals, etc.
>> >
>> > Nope. They have to buy drugs on the market in the same manner
>> > as any other health provider. Naturally they use their bargaining
>> > position to get the best deal they can but ultimately they cant
>> > force the drug companies to sell at a price they dont like
>>
>> They do in fact force the drug companies. Not only are they they
>> largest purchaser but they control the market. In effect they are a
>> monopoly for health care. So they use their monopoly power to force low
>> prices from the drugs companies against the threat that their drugs
>> won't be allowed into the market.
>
>The pharmas operate internationally; the NHS is by no means their only
>customer.
>
And, in fact, the pharmas charge different prices in different
markets. Price fixing is a term for the actions in one market.


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From: Mxsmanic on
Hatunen writes:

> If they aren't serious, they aren't credentials.

If they are credentials, they're serious.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Hatunen writes:

> Meanwhile, I suggestyou obtain a book on American constitutional
> law. For isntacne, civil forfeiture is not considered
> unconstitutional.

Neither is conscription. But that doesn't make it so.

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From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on
Le 07/08/2006, Mxsmanic a crit :
> Hatunen writes:
>
>> If they aren't serious, they aren't credentials.
>
> If they are credentials, they're serious.

A $40 "diploma" bought on the web is not a credential.

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