From: Tchiowa on

Carole Allen wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2006 23:13:58 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> But there are some specific powers given to Congress about regulating
> >commerce between states. Then add this little gem: "The powers not
> >delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by
> >it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the
> >people." and that seems to very specifically bar the Federal Government
> >from owning all the businesses.
> >
> Oh, that explains all those suits and actions taken at the federal
> level to interfere in state issues such as right to die and medical
> marijuana, then, huh?

The Federal government has the right to make laws. Read the
Constitution. In those cases the states don't have the right to ignore
them.

From: Tchiowa on

Jordi wrote:
> Tchiowa wrote:
> > Jordi wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course, you search for the most efficient way which a lot of
> > > countries have found is this one. The figures are elsewhere in this
> > > topic.
> >
> > And where do you stop? Healthy citizens, wonderful idea. Can't be
> > healthy if you don't eat. Should food be considered the same way?
> > Should the government take over all farms, dairies, ranches, fisheries,
> > etc.? Run the whole food distribution chain?
>
> Not necessarily. Obviously you can't see any good in anything that is
> not a full-blown 100% capitalist economy and everything that is not
> will inevitably fail.

Capitalism needs to have fences around it, rules and regulations to
prevent abuse. Other than that, yes I'm 100% for it.

But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than
medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to
Socialize medical care?

> > > "The Frontier Centre for Public Policy is an independent public policy
> > > think tank whose mission is "to broaden the debate on our future
> > > through public policy research and education and to explore positive
> > > changes within our public institutions that support economic growth and
> > > opportunity."
> >
> > Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
> You are in their target group.

"Employed"???

> > > You can as well say that the US doesn't have queues because a lot of
> > > people can't afford the treatment they need.
> >
> > Except that simply isn't true.
>
> Don't you agree a significant part of US population is not able to
> access to proper Cancer treatment or a heart transplant?

No. By law these are critical health issues. And is a small portion has
a difficult time there are ways to remedy that without tossing out the
whole system in favor of one where the entire population has a problem
accessing this type of care.

Did you see the court orders in the UK requiring the NHS to pay for
people to go abroad for medical care because the UK hospitals can't
provide it in a timely fashion?

> > > I rather like our system better, thanks.
> >
> > Quit thinking about just today. Think about the next generations. The
> > selfishness of the Left in promoting Socialism carries a price that the
> > next generations will pay for.
>
> Don't worry, that will not happen in your great U. S. of A. Let our
> little Europe drown in Communism once and for all.

I have more compassion for them than that.

From: Dave Frightens Me on
On 14 Jul 2006 02:26:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than
>medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to
>Socialize medical care?

Because it wouldn't work, and is much better left in private hands, as
communism has showed us.

The comparison is silly.
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From: Jordi on

Tchiowa wrote:
> Jordi wrote:
>
> Capitalism needs to have fences around it, rules and regulations to
> prevent abuse. Other than that, yes I'm 100% for it.
>
> But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than
> medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to
> Socialize medical care?

See Dave's reply.

> >
> > You are in their target group.
>
> "Employed"???
>

No. The whole idea behind think tanks is to provide people of a certain
ideology with a constant flow of information to prove their political
choice is the only right one.

> > Don't you agree a significant part of US population is not able to
> > access to proper Cancer treatment or a heart transplant?
>
> No. By law these are critical health issues. And is a small portion has
> a difficult time there are ways to remedy that without tossing out the
> whole system in favor of one where the entire population has a problem
> accessing this type of care.

I'd rather have a wait-system rather than a going-bankrupt one. And
then there is the choice of having a private insurance plan.

> Did you see the court orders in the UK requiring the NHS to pay for
> people to go abroad for medical care because the UK hospitals can't
> provide it in a timely fashion?

NHS finally paid, so it was effectively free for them, so?

> >
> > Don't worry, that will not happen in your great U. S. of A. Let our
> > little Europe drown in Communism once and for all.
>
> I have more compassion for them than that.

Thanks but, frankly, we don't need it.


J.

From: Go Fig on
In article <HUGtg.65237$Lm5.35095(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, mrtravel
<mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote:

> Go Fig wrote:
>
> >
> >>and Medicare.
> >
> >
> > The Feds have the States administer these programs so it can pass
> > muster (for some).
> >
>
> The states don't administer Medicare.

No, but it is part of SS, and is premium based.

jay
Fri Jul 14, 2006
mailto:gofig(a)mac.com


>
> You are possibly thinking of Medicaid
> http://www.cms.hhs.gov/MedicaidGenInfo/