Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Dave Frightens Me on 9 Aug 2006 06:19 On 8 Aug 2006 22:58:01 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Mxsmanic wrote: >> Tchiowa writes: >> >> > Involuntary servitude has a specific meaning and you can't parse it >> > apart and try to change its meaning. >> >> Yes. It's not voluntary, and it's service. Conscription is not >> voluntary, and it's service. Therefore conscription is involuntary servitude. > >I told you before you can't take the words apart and analyze the >meaning of each word then come up with a definition of the whole. Is this the first time you've met Mixi? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 9 Aug 2006 06:25 On 8 Aug 2006 19:14:10 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >The Reid wrote: >> Following up to Hatunen >> >> >For >> >instancve, the courts have already ruled that American citizens >> >do not lose their rights when detained at Guantanamo. >> >> pity about everybody else. > >Yeah, I have a hard time sleeping at night thinking about these poor >people who seem to have lost some of their rights when all they did was >to maim, kill, torture thousands of Afghans, participate in terrorist >acts, and other minor infractions. Perhaps you should read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4708946.stm "According to the Pentagon, 95% of them were not captured by the Americans themselves. Some 86% were handed over in Afghanistan and Pakistan after a widespread campaign in which big financial bounties were offered in exchange for anyone suspected of links to al-Qaeda and the Taleban. The US lawyers quote the text of one of the notices the Americans handed out: "Get wealth and power beyond your dreams... You can receive millions of dollars helping the anti-Taleban forces catch al-Qaeda and Taleban murderers. "This is enough money to take care of your family, your village, your tribe for the rest of your life." So, according to the figures supplied by the Pentagon, it looks as though more than 440 men out of the total of 517 at Guantanamo were handed over to the Americans in Afghanistan and Pakistan as a direct result of these bounties. " Not quite the same picture? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: jeremyrh.geo on 9 Aug 2006 06:46 Tchiowa wrote: > Mxsmanic wrote: > > Tchiowa writes: > > > > > Yeah, I have a hard time sleeping at night thinking about these poor > > > people who seem to have lost some of their rights when all they did was > > > to maim, kill, torture thousands of Afghans, participate in terrorist > > > acts, and other minor infractions. > > > > The people being held did not generally do any of these > > things--although it's true that the definition of "terrorist acts" has > > become very broad. > > Those people being held were for the most part either captured on the > battlefield performing terrorist acts or supporting a terrorist > government while fighting out of uniform, or they were taken as members > of terrorist cells. Says who? The US military? If they did something wrong, try them in a court of law. B;
From: Dave Frightens Me on 9 Aug 2006 06:52 On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:53:31 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hatunen writes: > >> In fact, cicil mattters don't require proof, only the >> preponderance of evidence. > >Like a telephone call? Can you be sure it will be accepted as evidence? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Hazelwood on 9 Aug 2006 06:56
On 9 Aug 2006 03:46:21 -0700, jeremyrh.geo(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >Tchiowa wrote: >> Mxsmanic wrote: >> > Tchiowa writes: >> > >> > > Yeah, I have a hard time sleeping at night thinking about these poor >> > > people who seem to have lost some of their rights when all they did was >> > > to maim, kill, torture thousands of Afghans, participate in terrorist >> > > acts, and other minor infractions. >> > >> > The people being held did not generally do any of these >> > things--although it's true that the definition of "terrorist acts" has >> > become very broad. >> >> Those people being held were for the most part either captured on the >> battlefield performing terrorist acts or supporting a terrorist >> government while fighting out of uniform, or they were taken as members >> of terrorist cells. > >Says who? The US military? If they did something wrong, try them in a >court of law. > >B; What law ? Bush ignores the law. He would pardon them all just as he plans to pardon Scooter Libby. The "law" is to punish the poor and the weak. Real "power" is above the law under Bush. |