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From: Sarah Banick on 10 Aug 2006 10:47 "> > what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and > who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not > interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US > doesn't need passports? "A lot" is relative. It's primarily the Carribean countries, who are more interested in our money than our nationality (and we are most interested in their beaches). And Mexico and Canada. But this is all changing, as the U.S. is now requiring passports to get back home after vacation.
From: Hatunen on 10 Aug 2006 12:02 On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:06 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >Following up to Hatunen > >>>So? What % of the annual budget of the average person goes to travel? >>>And Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans (just take a look at >>>how many Americans have a passport). >> >>Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad. > >that of course doesn't make it untrue. No, but it raises a seriopus question as to the valdity of the satement " Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans" >>A great many of >>the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport >>(so far, anyway). > >what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and >who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not >interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US >doesn't need passports? Define "abroad". And what are the figures supporting the statement that more Europeans travel abroad than Americans." As far as Americans are concerned, of course, Europeans are already "abroad". ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 10 Aug 2006 12:03 On 10 Aug 2006 07:11:01 -0700, "Jordi" <jordi.uso(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >mrtravel wrote: >> The Reid wrote: >> > >> > what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and >> > who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not >> > interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US >> > doesn't need passports? >> >> There are few left, but that will soon end as the US Government will >> require them for re-entry. The percentage of foreign travelers is lower >> because the US is a large country with great diversity. > >So is Australia and I recall them having one of the highest % of >passport holders. I guess Aussies are anxious to get out. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 10 Aug 2006 12:08 On 10 Aug 2006 07:14:13 -0700, "Jordi" <jordi.uso(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Hatunen wrote: >> On 9 Aug 2006 02:55:39 -0700, "Jordi" <jordi.uso(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >So? What % of the annual budget of the average person goes to travel? >> >And Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans (just take a look at >> >how many Americans have a passport). >> >> Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad. A great many of >> the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport >> (so far, anyway). Athough I do have a passport I don't need it to >> visit the foreign country just 100 km from my house, which I do >> several times a year. > >I don't think you're very representative of the average USAian :) I don't think that had anything to do with the point. >It will be interesting to see the stats once the passport for re-entry >is mandatory. It's going ot be a major headache here in southern Arizona where a fairly significant percent of the population is Mexican by either birth or ancestry. Travel across the frontier is rather voluminous, but the Mexicans here in the US tend to be of lower socioeconomic status and passports for the parents and all the kids is going to be a pretty big burden just so they can spend Christmas with Tio and Tia. The feds are trying to figure out ways for frequent crossers to not need passports. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: The Reid on 10 Aug 2006 12:14
Following up to Hatunen >>>Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad. >> >>that of course doesn't make it untrue. > > >No, but it raises a seriopus question as to the valdity of the >satement " Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans" does it? I thought it explained why it might be true but not unreasonable or surprising. >>>A great many of >>>the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport >>>(so far, anyway). >> >>what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and >>who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not >>interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US >>doesn't need passports? > >Define "abroad". other countries >And what are the figures supporting the >statement that more Europeans travel abroad than Americans." the passport figures? >As far as Americans are concerned, of course, Europeans are >already "abroad". We have a head start! -- Mike Reid I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" |