From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:15:14 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>Dave Frightens Me writes:
>
>> That is not a civil matter, it's criminal.
>
>It's called civil forfeiture, IIRC.

If drugs are involved, it's usually a criminal matter.
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:01:23 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:14:23 +0100, The Reid
><dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Following up to Hatunen
>>
>>>>>Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad.
>>>>
>>>>that of course doesn't make it untrue.
>>>
>>>
>>>No, but it raises a seriopus question as to the valdity of the
>>>satement " Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans"
>>
>>does it? I thought it explained why it might be true but not
>>unreasonable or surprising.
>>
>>>>>A great many of
>>>>>the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport
>>>>>(so far, anyway).
>>>>
>>>>what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and
>>>>who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not
>>>>interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US
>>>>doesn't need passports?
>>>
>>>Define "abroad".
>>
>>other countries
>
>So Mexico and Canada and the Caribbean islands are "abroad", even
>for Americans.

Certainly the islands, yes. I guess Americans don't realise what they
are actually doing when they go to Canada or Mexico.
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From: JohnT on

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1c1nd2d73uh103ir0buuj7o0nk9r3mpiuc(a)4ax.com...
> Jordi writes:
>
>> The average European family has a home, car, computer, mobile phone,
>> cable-TV and whatever else the American family has, and has more time
>> to enjoy it together.
>
> If only that were actually true.

Mixi is right. I don't have cable TV. But he seems to have nothing on the
list except a computer and a cellphone. Not that he would describe himself
as average.

JohnT


From: JohnT on

"Martin" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:39:24 +0100, "JohnT"
> <johnhillriseDONOTSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1c1nd2d73uh103ir0buuj7o0nk9r3mpiuc(a)4ax.com...
>>> Jordi writes:
>>>
>>>> The average European family has a home, car, computer, mobile phone,
>>>> cable-TV and whatever else the American family has, and has more time
>>>> to enjoy it together.
>>>
>>> If only that were actually true.
>>
>>Mixi is right. I don't have cable TV. But he seems to have nothing on the
>>list except a computer and a cellphone. Not that he would describe himself
>>as average.
>
> We have two of each so together we are above average.

Which we already knew ;)

JohnT


From: mrtravel on
Jordi wrote:

> However, I was recently in Tecumseh, ON, where crossing to the US
> (Detroit) is a matter of crossing a bridge and was told a not
> insignificant number of people do conmute from Canada to the US.
>

Plus, Canadians rank #2 in the number of illegal immigrants to the US