From: Tchiowa on 11 Aug 2006 01:19 Mxsmanic wrote: > Dave Frightens Me writes: > > > If drugs are involved, it's usually a criminal matter. > > The prosecution of the crime is a criminal matter, but the seizure of > property is not. That's because property can't commit a crime. But the civil forfeiture is a result of the criminal conduct. And it all has to be approved by a judge. Therefore "due process".
From: The Reid on 11 Aug 2006 03:41 Following up to Hatunen >>other countries > >So Mexico and Canada and the Caribbean islands are "abroad", even >for Americans. any reason they wouldn't be? -- Mike Reid I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
From: Mxsmanic on 11 Aug 2006 06:24 Tchiowa writes: > That's because property can't commit a crime. But the civil forfeiture > is a result of the criminal conduct. And it all has to be approved by a > judge. Criminal conduct is decided by a jury, not a judge. And civil forfeiture occurs before anything is proved by anyone. Therefore, no due process. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Jim Ley on 11 Aug 2006 07:36 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:41:54 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >Following up to JohnT > >>>>>> The average European family has a home, car, computer, mobile phone, >>>>>> cable-TV and whatever else the American family has, and has more time >>>>>> to enjoy it together. > >>> We have two of each so together we are above average. >> >>Which we already knew ;) > >we've got 1 home, 2 cars, 3 computers at least, 3 phones, still >have cable TV for the moment, I've also got a top of the range >Swiss army knife, no microwave and my wife has a number of cuddly >toys. No home, 1 car, 5 or more maybe computers, 2 phones, 1 digital TV service - should help the average if it's on households, the lack of the home might hurt if that's taken into account... Jim.
From: Padraig Breathnach on 11 Aug 2006 07:58
The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >we've got 1 home, 2 cars, 3 computers at least, 3 phones, still >have cable TV for the moment, I've also got a top of the range >Swiss army knife, no microwave and my wife has a number of cuddly >toys. Herself doesn't need cuddly toys; she's got me. -- PB The return address has been MUNGED My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/ |