From: Hatunen on 11 Aug 2006 11:49 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:41:54 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >Following up to Mxsmanic > >>> The average European family has a home, car, computer, mobile phone, >>> cable-TV and whatever else the American family has, and has more time >>> to enjoy it together. >> >>If only that were actually true. > >I assume its largely true then, except for some trivial nitpick. >Why is *cable* TV important? I'm about to ditch mine. Well, I've seen Finnish TV without cable, and trust me, cable is important. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Jim Ley on 11 Aug 2006 11:50 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:59:48 +0100, Padraig Breathnach <padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote: >jim(a)jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: > >>No home, 1 car, 5 or more maybe computers, 2 phones, 1 digital TV >>service - should help the average if it's on households, the lack of >>the home might hurt if that's taken into account... >> >Whatever about finding a home for yourself, surely you can find >somebody to give a home to your digital TV service. Why do I need a home for it, it's tiny, it plugs into the USB. Jim.
From: Hatunen on 11 Aug 2006 11:54 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:34:59 -0400, "Sarah Banick" <sbanick(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >"Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:1155257645.367072.245410(a)m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> >> The Reid wrote: >>> Following up to Hatunen >>> >>> >>So? What % of the annual budget of the average person goes to travel? >>> >>And Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans (just take a look at >>> >>how many Americans have a passport). >>> > >>> >Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad. >>> >>> that of course doesn't make it untrue. >> >> But it makes the original statement irrelevant. >> >>> >A great many of >>> >the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport >>> >(so far, anyway). >>> >>> what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and >>> who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not >>> interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US >>> doesn't need passports? >> >> Your question is nonsensical. The fact that Europe is Balkanized means >> that a trip in Europe that is "abroad" and requires a passport would be >> a domestic trip in the US. >> >> Instead try asking how many people in the US travel away from home and >> how far the typical trip is and compare with Europe. You'll find that >> Americans travel more. > >Do you have actual numbers on this? I am really curious to see if that is >true. There are many Americans who have never been out of their state or >region, especially those at the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder. I suspect the same claims can be made for Europeans of a lower socioeconomic status. In the USA even those of lower socioeconomic status sometimes go to visit relatives several states away. >Their typical trip is to the nearest beach or amusement park. That's true for almost everyone in the USA. Why wouldn't one go to nearny attrqctions? >I still agree with the others. An American driving from say, Virginia to >California, may cover a lot of territory, but he's still in the same culture >(all California jokes aside), he's still watching the same television >programs, speaking the same language, and not using a passport or being >exposed to the many quirks (for lack of a better word) of international >travel. True, but I think that's a different question. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Mxsmanic on 11 Aug 2006 11:52 Hatunen writes: > In civil matters "proof" is not a criterion. In all matters depriving persons of property or liberty, due process is a necessary prerequisite, according to the Constitution. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: mrtravel on 11 Aug 2006 11:54
Hatunen wrote: > In civil matters "proof" is not a criterion. > Really? There is no need for evidence? |