From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:29:20 GMT, mrtravel <mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Carole Allen wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:47:32 +0100, "JohnT"
>> <johnhillriseDONOTSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I hate to have to admit this, but I have a Junghans watch which synchronises
>>>with the MSF transmitter (it is 10 years old). And I have both a computer
>>>and a PDA. At which point the comparison with Mixi is at an end. Rumour hath
>>>it that he is finding Paris too hot in the Summer and is thinking of
>>>relocating to Seattle.
>>>
>>>JohnT
>>>
>>
>> Dear Mixi: it rains here 390 days each year.
>
>Isn't it true that the average rainfall in Seattle is less than that of
>some other major US cities?

London also has low levels of rainfall. That doesn't stop it from
being wet much of the time.
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:49:05 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
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>Jim Ley writes:
>
>> Interesting claim you're making, and one which has little basis in
>> fact, it will of course depend on what technology your mobile phone is
>> operating on, as certain formats rely on very accurate clocks and send
>> the exact time to the phone, they're likely a lot more accurate than
>> your watch.
>
>My watch is accurate to 1 second in three million years. No cellphone
>does better than that.

What do you care if it's only 1 second in every year?
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:16:15 GMT, jim(a)jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:51:39 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:

>>Yes. I want it to be perpetually correct within a fraction of a
>>second.
>
>Why? For what purpose?

You never know when you might need that extra millisecond in the next
60 years.
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From: Miguel Cruz on
Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz writes:
>> In some places (e.g., USA) the time on the phone is set by the
>> network and I must assume that's very precise.
>
> It depends on the network; they don't necessarily set their clocks
> carefully, although the smart ones do.

I don't think the service would work without accurate clocks; extremely
accurate timekeeping is a key element of the system used to select cells
and hand off calls.

>> It always agrees with the time on my computer, which is a good sign.
>
> You can use NTP to keep your computer within milliseconds of the
> correct time. This is built in to recent versions of Windows,
> although I can't remember if it is enabled by default (and it only
> synchronizes once a week by default, which can leave your PC several
> minutes off).

Yes, I have used NTP to keep my computer's clock accurate for at least
10 years. Which is why its agreement with my cell phone is so
confidence-inspiring for me.

It's nice to hear, by the way, that Windows has finally caught up in
this regard.

>> Elsewhere I have to set it myself and I find that it loses a minute
>> or two a week, which is fine for my purposes. Do you require more
>> precision than that?
>
> Yes. I want it to be perpetually correct within a fraction of a
> second. It's easy to find watches like this today, and they are
> inexpensive.

You may want that, but I don't see why it's important or why 99.99% of
people would care.

miguel
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From: Mxsmanic on
Jim Ley writes:

> How does a chain make you remember to transfer it between clothes, or
> remember to have it with you?

When you put the clothing on, it's there. When you take it off, you
can feel it dangling around. Pocket watches are heavier than
wristwatches.

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