From: Tchiowa on

Miguel Cruz wrote:
> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)> wrote:

> > Nonsense. The difference in culture between New York City, San
> > Francisco, Miami, New Orleans are every bit as great.
> I'm having a hard time grasping this claim.
> Take New York and New Orleans, to be charitable.


> The vast majority of people speak the same language.

The "versions" of English that they speak are different. A high
percentage in both cities speak English as a second language. Spanish
is very common in NYC. French is dominant in New Orleans.

> They have 95% of
> the same TV channels, substantially the same popular music and films,

The music scene in New York and New Orleans don't even resemble each
other. New Orleans is famous for it's jazz clubs while NYC is more
classical and show music.

Yes, they all watch MTV. But of course so do the people in Berlin and

> the same brands in the shops and the same chains of shops.

Same is true for Athens and Berlin.

> They have 200
> years of shared national history and for most people the same elections
> are the most important.
> Contrast this with Athens and Berlin. A tiny minority of the people have
> shared fluency in any language.

Almost all speak English.

> They share a handful of TV channels,
> mostly the channels that are available in New York and New Orleans as
> well. Popular music and films are different, the cuisines have less
> overlap,

You think New Orleans food is similar to what you get in NYC?

> and individuals in one city have almost no interest in the same
> political issues as those in the other. They don't even use the same

Most political issues in NYC are local as are the issues in New
Orleans. "All politics is local."

From: Hatunen on
On 14 Aug 2006 18:00:35 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)>

>Hatunen wrote:
>> On 14 Aug 2006 04:14:55 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)>
>> wrote:
>> >Balkanized is a term that came into common use during the 1990s when
>> >Yugoslavia came apart and the Balkans erupted into war. Balkanized
>> >means that the area has been chopped up into small independent
>> >political entities based on mutual hatred.
>> You must be young to think the word "Balkanized" came into common
>> use in the 1990s.
>Sorry, but while it may have been used in some circles, *common* usage
>didn't happen until the Balkans came apart rather violently in the 90s.
>> >Kind of like the rest of Europe.
>> >
>> >Or did you think that all those nations formed by some kind of magic?
>> THOSE nations were formed in the aftermath of WW1,
>Amazing. No Germany or France or England or Italy or Spain or Portugal
>or Ireland prior to WWI. All the history books must be wrong.

I didn't know Germany, France, Englnd, Italy and Spain were
Balkan countries. (Please see paragraph above starting
"Balkanized is a term ...")

However, I do see an ambiguity there further down, so I'll await

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From: Stephen Dailey on
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:08:01 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)>

> Following up to Stephen Dailey
>> The Super Chief appears to be a concept vehicle,
> that's the conclusion I have reached, may it stay that way.
>> so the short answer would
>> be no: no one owns one as a car since they're not for sale. :-)
>> However,
>> the Super Chief is based on the F250 4-door pickup, which is quite
>> common. I see them a lot at gas stations. They seem to spend a lot of
>> time there.
> A few brain dead Brits have bought those Hummer things (including
> stretch versions), public opinion is probably not that far from
> throwing rocks at them.

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Enjoy. :-)

Shoreline, Washington USA
14 Aug 2006, 2001 PDT
From: Mxsmanic on
Miguel Cruz writes:

> If you know where you are then you can synchronize with microsecond
> accuracy against other devices that also know where they are, using
> freely-available time-of-day sources.

It's not that easy, because of propagation delays and variation

> Hint: Cell towers are not using NTP.

Whatever they use, the principle is the same.

> No, because the point is to get the clocks at multiple locations
> synchronized with each other.

There aren't too many protocols that require that, and even of those
that do, often propagation delay is ignored. The stations are
synchronized after allowing for delays, but they aren't necessarily
synchronized with an absolute time of day.

It's possible to synchronize with time of day with accuracies of tens
of milliseconds without too much trouble, but below that threshold
things get complicated and expensive. Even NTP is a complicated
protocol, specifically because it is so hard to make it highly

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From: The Reid on
Following up to Stephen Dailey

>You might enjoy this site:

Nice, its reassuring to see sensible Americans, rather than this
tchowa twit.
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