From: Tchiowa on 15 Aug 2006 21:14
> On 14 Aug 2006 18:00:35 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com>
> >Hatunen wrote:
> >> On 14 Aug 2006 04:14:55 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Balkanized is a term that came into common use during the 1990s when
> >> >Yugoslavia came apart and the Balkans erupted into war. Balkanized
> >> >means that the area has been chopped up into small independent
> >> >political entities based on mutual hatred.
> >> You must be young to think the word "Balkanized" came into common
> >> use in the 1990s.
> >Sorry, but while it may have been used in some circles, *common* usage
> >didn't happen until the Balkans came apart rather violently in the 90s.
> >> >Kind of like the rest of Europe.
> >> >
> >> >Or did you think that all those nations formed by some kind of magic?
> >> THOSE nations were formed in the aftermath of WW1,
> >Amazing. No Germany or France or England or Italy or Spain or Portugal
> >or Ireland prior to WWI. All the history books must be wrong.
> I didn't know Germany, France, Englnd, Italy and Spain were
> Balkan countries. (Please see paragraph above starting
> "Balkanized is a term ...")
">Kind of like the rest of Europe.
>Or did you think that all those nations formed by some kind of magic?
THOSE nations were formed in the aftermath of WW1,"
The *REST* of Europe. And that includes Italy, Spain, etc.
From: Tchiowa on 15 Aug 2006 21:15
The Reid wrote:
> Following up to Hatunen
> >>> Nonsense. The difference in culture between New York City, San
> >>> Francisco, Miami, New Orleans are every bit as great.
> >>No, they're not.
> >In many ways they really are. For instance, if you spend any time
> >in Miami you will quickly realize it is a Caribbean city.
> are different parts of US more different than the Basques from
> the Galicians from the Catalans from the gypsies from the
You mean like the Creoles and the Navajo?
(as long as you're talking about small minorities)
From: dgs on 15 Aug 2006 21:41
> "Martin" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
>>Mixi loves being miserable. It looks like he will chose Seattle.
> Forget Mixi. It sounds good to me,too. Do you think Carole may have some
> spare accommodation?
Carole forgot to mention that Seattle had a mini heat wave already this
summer, and it's been warm at other times too. Because Seattle's
climate has been historically cool, air conditioning isn't that
common; most people in the area wonder why anyone would even have it.
Naturally, this doesn't bother normal people who can function in a
variety of climactic conditions, and of course, now that it's known
that it occasionally gets warm in Seattle and air-con isn't that common,
I'm sure a certain fellow in a cramped little Paris flat will continue
to run his air conditioner 24/7, plastic bags included.
Oh, and Seattle population is barely 600,000; the metro area is less
than three million. Small town, according to Atkielskian ISO Sub-
standard counting convention, so not attractive as a place to live.
From: Tchiowa on 15 Aug 2006 21:48
Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2006 18:18:12 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Miguel Cruz wrote:
> >> Contrast this with Athens and Berlin. A tiny minority of the people have
> >> shared fluency in any language.
> >Almost all speak English.
> You would be one of those ignorant yanks if you believe this!
A few years ago I commented to a friend of my in Angola about the
difficulty I had in France (I used to go there several times a year)
because I don't speak French and not all that many people spoke
English. He claimed that it was because many people have an attitude
like you just expressed (ignorant yank) abouit Americans.
At his suggestion I tried using Portuguese when I went to France (I had
learned that after several years in Angola). So I did. I'd speak to
someone in France using Portuguese and they would respond in French.
I'd try again in Portuguese and then they would shift to English as a
I found that damn near everyone I met could speak English fairly well.
> >> They share a handful of TV channels,
> >> mostly the channels that are available in New York and New Orleans as
> >> well. Popular music and films are different, the cuisines have less
> >> overlap,
> >You think New Orleans food is similar to what you get in NYC?
> It's a hell of a lot closer than Greek salad and Sauerkraut.
Clearly someone has never eaten Creole food and Philly Cheese Steaks.
From: BB on 15 Aug 2006 22:08
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:41:35 -0700, dgs wrote:
> Oh, and Seattle population is barely 600,000; the metro area is less
> than three million. Small town, according to Atkielskian ISO Sub-
> standard counting convention, so not attractive as a place to live.
Just so Mixi doesn't start looking for nearby alternatives: Portland is
even smaller. We have heat waves too. And alcohol is freakin' everywhere -
we have the largest number of breweries per-capita of any city in the
world, and something like 80 wineries in the area. Its just awful! Try
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