Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Carole Allen on 16 Aug 2006 23:46 >On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:48:18 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> >wrote: > >> Following up to dgs >> >>> Oh, and Seattle population is barely 600,000; the metro area is less >>> than three million. >> >> i understand it has mountiains too. > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:26:37 -0700, "Stephen Dailey" <smdailey(a)seanet.com> wrote:>If it hasn't erupted in the last few hundred years or isn't snow-capped >year round, it's a "hill," not a "mountain." > Mt. Rainier, 14,000+ ft, snow capped all year round, as is much of the Cascades...ditto Mt. Baker, and the Olympics. St. Helens erupted 26 years ago, May 1980.
From: Carole Allen on 16 Aug 2006 23:51 On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:09:55 +0200, Martin <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >I see a NIMBY attitude creeping in here. >I must point out the lack of air conditioning in the Netherlands, the >malaria swamps, the never ending wind & rain and the total lack of >Starbucks and tights. >-- > Here it is called KBO - we usd to have a columnist who wrote tongue in cheek articles touting the Lesser Seattle organization, whose motto was "Keep the Bastards Out," though he was mainly fighting Californication, which battle we seem to have lost.
From: Stephen Dailey on 17 Aug 2006 00:48 On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:44:12 GMT, Carole Allen <carolea7(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > >> Following up to dgs >> >>> Oh, and Seattle population is barely 600,000; the metro area is less >>> than three million. >> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:48:18 +0100, The Reid > <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >> i understand it has mountiains too. >> -- > Yes, we have the Olympics and of course the Cascade range. But then > again, the Cascade range is considered volcanically active. Ya, know, > we did have that big St. Helens blow in 1980 - blew the top right off > it, it did...buried stuff in ash all around.. killed a few people, > killed lots of trees and animals. For the last year or so it has been > actively rebuilding its cone, occasionally sends up some steam or > smoke. But on a day like today Mt. Rainier just sits there looking > like a gigantic ice cream cone. Things will get really interesting around here the next time Mt. Rainier erupts. There were quite a lot fewer people around to witness the last eruption in the early 19th century, and they tended not to build large cities downstream from the mountain. === Steve Shoreline, Washington USA smdailey(a)seanet.com 16 Aug 2006, 2148 PDT
From: Hatunen on 17 Aug 2006 01:30 On 16 Aug 2006 17:11:46 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: >> On 16 Aug 2006 01:40:52 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >The Reid wrote: >> >> Following up to Carole Allen >> >> >> >> >and Europeans can travel between most countries without going through >> >> >any kind of passport control. >> >> >> >> there's no place for common sense in this debate. >> > >> >Plenty of common sense in the discussion. It's your ability to >> >comprehend that is at question. >> >> You're all alone here. No one seems to wants to support your point of >> view, because you are not making sense. > >"No one"? You mean you and a couple of other US bashers who aren't >happy because I pointed out a rather glaring inconsistency in your >position. > >> >> The French speak English in the street, >> > >> >Many do. >> >> Many? Yes, maybe a whopping 1% speak some English in the street. > >You should go to Paris again. Now there's your problem. The assumption that the people in a city like Paris are representative of the entire country. That sort of dumb reasoning undermines everything you say. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 17 Aug 2006 01:36
On 16 Aug 2006 17:52:39 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Hatunen wrote: >> On 15 Aug 2006 22:45:11 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >Europeans possession of passports is a result of hatred and bigotry >> >that has kept the continent at war with itself for centuries. Not >> >something to be proud of. >> > >> >> and Europeans can travel between most countries without going through >> >> any kind of passport control. >> > >> >These days, yes. But that's a recent development. The reason a lot of >> >Euros have passports was because that wasn't the case until recently. >> > >> >Try to keep up. >> >> As I pointed out elsewhere, there were no passports until after >> WW1. The fact that they are no longer needed for much >> intra-European travel means that they really only served their >> purpose for about 80 years out of two millenia of European >> history. You make a pretty weak case with the passport business, >> espcially since you don't explain *why* passports are an >> indication of bigotry and hatred. > >Passports are not an indication of bigotry and hatred. I never said >that. I could swear it was you who said: "Europeans possession of passports is a result of hatred and bigotry that has kept the continent at war with itself for centuries." >The need to have a passport in order to travel more than a couple of >hours in any direction in Europe is a result of the fact that Europe is >chopped up into little political entities. OK. >And that is a result of >1,000 years or more of bigotry and hatred and war. Ah, see, you're waffling now; that's not what you've said. You've said it was a result of bigotry and hatred, not war. >The hatred and bigotry caused the boundaries and the need for passports >to travel arised from the boundaries. Now, see, there's where your reasoning seems to be coming a cropper. You provide no evidence that hatred and bigotry caused teh boundaries. >Therefore the need for passports >for Euros results not from some cultural superiority as has been >claimed but rather because the hatred and bigotry that has existed for >a millenium and more (and still exists) created the national borders. Who, exactly, was it that said the need for passports came cultural superiority? >So the "More Europeans have passports than Americans" statement (which >is what this discussion is about) does not prove cultural superiority >but rather stems from a history of war and hatred. I don't beleive the claim was made that the need for passports proved cultural superority; I believe the calim was that Europeans traveled more. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |