From: Hatunen on
On 17 Aug 2006 08:03:20 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Hatunen wrote:
>> On 16 Aug 2006 17:16:06 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >> Oddly, so have I, plus many others reading this. Your view seems way
>> >> different to anyone elses here, suggesting you must be right, and
>> >> we're all wrong.
>> >
>> >The Euro's opinion of themselves?
>> >
>> >Which part do you disagree with? The fact that Europe is chopped up
>> >into little political units because of a millenium of bigotry and war?
>> >The fact the European economy is lagging far, far behind the US? The
>> >fact that unemployment in most of Europe is roughly double what it is
>> >in the US?
>>
>> I see you like trick questions. When did you stop beating your
>> wife sort of thing.
>
>No. Those are legitimate questions. They are the points I've been
>making and you claim that I must be wrong because you and others
>disagree. So which of the points are you disagreeing with?

Nonsense. You always beg your own question. You start with "all
wars are the result of bigotry and hatred" as your postulate, and
draw all your conclusions from those postulates, blithely
brushing aside attempts to challenge your postulates.

>> "Which part do you disagree with? The fact that Europe is chopped
>> up into little political units because of a millenium of bigotry
>> and war?"
>>
>> You don't leave it open to the possibility that Eruope is chopped
>> up into little political units for other reasons (and some of
>> those political units are pretty damn big).
>
>Then you disagree about the reason. Tell me about all the love and
>acceptance that created the borders.

And you seem inordinately fond of the fallacy of the excluded
middle.

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From: Frank F. Matthews on


Hatunen wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:43:06 +0100, The Reid
> <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Following up to Hatunen
>>
>>
>>>>So? What % of the annual budget of the average person goes to travel?
>>>>And Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans (just take a look at
>>>>how many Americans have a passport).
>>>
>>>Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad.
>>
>>that of course doesn't make it untrue.
>
>
>
> No, but it raises a seriopus question as to the valdity of the
> satement " Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans"
>
>
>>>A great many of
>>>the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport
>>>(so far, anyway).
>>
>>what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and
>>who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not
>>interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US
>>doesn't need passports?
>
>
> Define "abroad". And what are the figures supporting the
> statement that more Europeans travel abroad than Americans."
>
> As far as Americans are concerned, of course, Europeans are
> already "abroad".
>
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *


Give up Dave. Of course Europeans travel abroad more. Pretty much
every significant trip is abroad there.

From: Mxsmanic on
Martin writes:

> I blame the poor quality of language teaching.

Yes.

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From: Hatunen on
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:37:31 GMT, mrtravel
<mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote:

>Hatunen wrote:
>
>> It looks more to me like a subdued threat to the Maltese that
>> Randall is a US citizen so don't try any funny stuff. It was only
>> a couple of decades after the US went after the barbary Pirates.
>>
>> Interesting that it's a printed form.
>
>It's a passport. Passports back then didn't come in a little book.

Why is it a passport? How do you define passport?

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From: JohnT on

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2dd9e2dc6fm6qnfk1vfj1pvi6efake8ivh(a)4ax.com...
> Martin writes:
>
>> I blame the poor quality of language teaching.
>
> Yes.

Could you possibly get an Irony Transplant?

JohnT