Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Dave Frightens Me on 22 Jul 2006 12:22 On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:03:49 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Iceman writes: > >> Heating is a necessity. Air conditioning is a luxury. > >Just as heating is a necessity when the temperature is 4 C, A/C is a >necessity when the temperature is 36 C. > >In fact, however, A/C is more necessary than heating, because it is >possible to diminish the need for heating by dressing warmly and >simply conserving body heat; whereas the need for cooling cannot be >diminished by any type of dress, since the human body generates heat >constantly, which must be removed. You are grossly over simplifying things. There are many means of dealing with heat other than air-con. I know this, because I have dealt with the heat effectively, and don't suffer. Wanna learn how? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 22 Jul 2006 12:23 On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:01:45 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >des small writes: > >> I get 42 days (i.e., more than 8 weeks) at my brand new company in the >> Netherlands. Of course, the higher reaches of USAian leave are widely >> rumoured to be largely fictional anyway, since it is allegedly not >> considered "team-spirited" to take them. > >And because, in today's world, one's job is likely to be eliminated or >outsourced long before one reaches the necessary level of seniority. As there will always be senior staff, you simply need to work to find another way to get there. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 12:51 Dave Frightens Me writes: > As there will always be senior staff, you simply need to work to find > another way to get there. There may not be any senior staff. In some companies turnover is high at all levels. And in some companies the highest positions are revolving doors. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 12:55 Dave Frightens Me writes: > You are grossly over simplifying things. No, I'm not. That's what it boils down to, and that's what people don't understand. > There are many means of dealing with heat other than air-con. The only way to remove heat is with refrigeration. The only way to remove cold is with heating. The fundamental difference between the two is that buildings and people produce heat continuously, which must be removed, no matter what the weather is like. This means that you can keep people warm just by insulating them, but you cannot keep them cool without some form of active cooling. You can survive without any type of heating even at -80 C if you are wearing the right clothing, but you cannot survive for more than a few minutes at +80 C unless you have active cooling systems to remove heat. > I know this, because I have dealt with the heat effectively, and don't > suffer. Wanna learn how? Try me. I was born and raised in a desert. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Stephen Dailey on 22 Jul 2006 13:34
On 22 Jul 2006 14:55:57 +0100, des small <vonbladet(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "Stephen Dailey" <smdailey(a)seanet.com> writes: > >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:50:08 -0500, erilar >> <erilarloFRY(a)SPAMchibardun.net.invalid> wrote: >> >> > In article <1153360366.190217.24550(a)m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, >> > "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Again, simply not true. Workers in the US on the job more than a few >> >> years get a month vacation every year just like in Europe. >> > >> > Not very many that's true of outside of teaching or very highly-paid >> > jobs(which teaching isn't). >> >> Every employer I've worked for has offered 4 weeks of vacation after a >> specified period of employment. I've never been with one employer long >> enough to earn 4 weeks, though. > > I get 42 days (i.e., more than 8 weeks) at my brand new company in the > Netherlands. Of course, the higher reaches of USAian leave are widely > rumoured to be largely fictional anyway, since it is allegedly not > considered "team-spirited" to take them. That's not the case at my employer. Everyone, including those who earn 3 or 4 weeks of vacation per year, is encouraged to use all their vacation time. Many such people take their vacations 3- or 4- week consecutive blocks. No, I don't work for a government. === Steve Shoreline, Washington USA smdailey(a)seanet.com 22 Jul 2006, 1034 PDT |