Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
in [Europe]
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From: dgs on 22 Jul 2006 17:09 Dave Frightens Me wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:51:49 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>There may not be any senior staff. In some companies turnover is high >>at all levels. And in some companies the highest positions are >>revolving doors. > > In most companies they are not. These are the ones you want to work > for. None of them will offer him US$400 million (or the equivalent in other convertible currencies), so he doesn't want to work for them either. -- dgs
From: BB on 22 Jul 2006 17:15 On 22 Jul 2006 14:55:57 +0100, des small wrote: > Of course, the higher reaches of USAian leave are widely > rumoured to be largely fictional anyway, since it is allegedly not > considered "team-spirited" to take them. Its a personal choice. Some people feel so self-important that they believe the place can't run without them, and don't take all their vacation time. Most employers I know of recognize the value of rested employees, and discourage this behavior. -- -BB- To e-mail me, unmunge my address
From: dgs on 22 Jul 2006 17:27 BB wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:20:50 -0700, dgs wrote: > >>Yanks might >>accrue 4 weeks of leave at a given employer, but once they change >>employers - a not uncommon occurrence - the meter gets set back to 2 >>weeks, because the new employer is not obliged to honor the former >>employer's vacation/holiday leave policy. > > It is typically 'reset', but usually to 3 or 4 weeks unless the job is > low-skilled & low-paying. I've never had only 2 weeks. I have, and the jobs were neither low-skilled or low-paying. I used to have an employer, years and years ago, that offered 4 weeks annually, but they seemed more the exception than the rule. And the rule still holds true that no employer is obliged to grant any specific minimum amount of vacation in the USA, while in Europe, this is usually part of the employment contract, and legally required by law. You and I might be fortunate, but there are pleny of Americans with only a couple of weeks of paid vacation a year. Most European employees get a minimum of four, and a big subset of them get six. One thing I didn't mention is returning to a previous employer and regaining the previous rate of vacation/holiday accrual. I've done just that. Three weeks in Europe (well, Belgium & Germany) are on the agenda this fall. Can't argue with that. -- dgs
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 18:32 JohnT writes: > So, yet again you don't know what you are talking about. That does not follow. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 18:36
BB writes: > Its a personal choice. Some people feel so self-important that they > believe the place can't run without them, and don't take all their > vacation time. Most employers I know of recognize the value of rested > employees, and discourage this behavior. If they really recognized that, they'd give employees more than four weeks, and they'd do it from the first day on the job. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |