Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Dave Frightens Me on 23 Jul 2006 13:33 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:32:51 +0800, Miguel Cruz <spam(a)admin.u.nu> wrote: >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >> Miguel Cruz <spam(a)admin.u.nu> wrote: >>> What are your plans for displacing these ocean currents? >> >> Now here's a face that hasn't been around for a while! How are things, >> Miguel? > >Not bad at all. Heartwarming to see the good fight is still being fought >in the trenches of rec.travel.europe, with so many familiar names still >in action. I'm a little saddened at all the mxsmaniacal wisdom I must >have missed lo these many months; I only happened to catch this one >because it was cross-posted to rec.travel.air. Where have you been visiting lately? Apparently not Europe, or you'd be visiting rte more! Me, I got married and moved to Italy, and am loving every baking moment of summer! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Jim Ley on 23 Jul 2006 14:01 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:15:00 +0200, Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >(note to self, you speak British English, so why are you saying >'vacation'?) To aid understanding by the person I'm responding too of course - you don't expect people on alt.politics.bush to understand en-GB Jim.
From: Stephen Dailey on 23 Jul 2006 14:28 On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:15:00 +0200, wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:30:09 GMT, jim(a)jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: > >> On 23 Jul 2006 01:29:51 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> If you read my >>> post I spoke rather specifically about *NEW* employees. And in that >>> case it makes a definite difference. >> >> No it doesn't, I've worked with lots of very good people who were more >> productive in their first months that later - the boredom outweighed >> the experience - indeed the experience caused the boredom. > > Indeed, I have seen this a lot. People get used to just going through > the motions, and playing the game. Their vacation time wont make any > difference to the company's profits. At many firms, employees who "just go through the motions" are invited to seek employment elsewhere. It's bad for morale, and office-wide productivity, to have employees who are just there to collect a paycheck and really don't give a damn about doing a good job. I've worked for both types of firms: (a) where you really, really have to screw up in order to get fired, and (b) where you are expected to be productive and to innovate. I prefer the latter. === Steve Shoreline, Washington USA smdailey(a)seanet.com 23 Jul 2006, 1127 PDT
From: Carole Allen on 23 Jul 2006 14:50 On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:03:49 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Just as heating is a necessity when the temperature is 4 C, A/C is a >necessity when the temperature is 36 C. > Well, it was 36.1 C in Seattle yesterday... with an inversion/stagnant air, smog alert....I survived in my condo without AC (and due toits configuration I don't get a cross-breeze). Our annual neighborhood parade was yesterday as well (they go on all summer in different neighborhoods - it's a Seattle thing leading up to the hydroplane races in a few weeks) , and I didn't see anyone falling down with heat exhaustion - not the flag bearers or the marching bands or the drill teams, or the folks on the floats... though they did have people misting them with water from spray bottles... Today it is currently about 29C, but predicted to get to 33C..humidity about 44% now ... seemed a bit muggier yesterday. I'm looking at the trees across the street; still very little breeze out there...
From: Dave Frightens Me on 23 Jul 2006 18:57
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:28:13 -0700, "Stephen Dailey" <smdailey(a)seanet.com> wrote: >On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:15:00 +0200, wrote: > >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:30:09 GMT, jim(a)jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >> >>> On 23 Jul 2006 01:29:51 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> If you read my >>>> post I spoke rather specifically about *NEW* employees. And in that >>>> case it makes a definite difference. >>> >>> No it doesn't, I've worked with lots of very good people who were more >>> productive in their first months that later - the boredom outweighed >>> the experience - indeed the experience caused the boredom. >> >> Indeed, I have seen this a lot. People get used to just going through >> the motions, and playing the game. Their vacation time wont make any >> difference to the company's profits. > >At many firms, employees who "just go through the motions" are invited to >seek employment elsewhere. It's bad for morale, and office-wide >productivity, to have employees who are just there to collect a paycheck >and really don't give a damn about doing a good job. Utter rubbish. Once you learn the ins and outs of any job, you can just coast along with it, delivering what's expected and no more. All big companys are the same like that. It's all just a question of figuring out the system. >I've worked for both types of firms: (a) where you really, really have to >screw up in order to get fired, and (b) where you are expected to be >productive and to innovate. I prefer the latter. Except the latter don't actually exist - for long. Once a few managers get in place, all the important decisions just get left to politics. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |