From: mrtravel on 15 Jul 2006 23:35 Go Fig wrote: > In article <6WZtg.121432$H71.93902(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > mrtravel <mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote: > > >>Go Fig wrote: >> >>>In article <HUGtg.65237$Lm5.35095(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, mrtravel >>><mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Go Fig wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>and Medicare. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The Feds have the States administer these programs so it can pass >>>>>muster (for some). >>>>> >>>> >>>>The states don't administer Medicare. >>> >>> >>>No, but it is part of SS, and is premium based. >> >>It is income based. You said "and Medicare" > > > No, you said that. > You right, I said "and Medicare". You quoted it, and under the quote you said "The Feds have the States administer these programs". If you did mean Medicare was admistered by the states, then you certainly shouldn't have specifically put your comments under that quote.
From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 00:50 Dave Frightens Me wrote: > On 14 Jul 2006 02:26:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than > >medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to > >Socialize medical care? > > Because it wouldn't work, and is much better left in private hands, as > communism has showed us. > > The comparison is silly. The comparison is *not* silly. Why? Because the same answer applies to Socialized medicine. It works for a little while but it eventually fails. Just like Socializing food. Medical care is much better left in private hands. The only things that the government should be doing are things that private enterprise simply cannot do.
From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 00:55 Jordi wrote: > Tchiowa wrote: > > Jordi wrote: > > > > Capitalism needs to have fences around it, rules and regulations to > > prevent abuse. Other than that, yes I'm 100% for it. > > > > But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than > > medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to > > Socialize medical care? > > See Dave's reply. See my reply. Socialism fails in Medical care just as surely as it fails in food. > > > You are in their target group. > > > > "Employed"??? > > No. The whole idea behind think tanks is to provide people of a certain > ideology with a constant flow of information to prove their political > choice is the only right one. And what ideology are you referring to? Wanting to accept responsibility for myself? Understanding that Socialism is a sick joke that always fails? > > > Don't you agree a significant part of US population is not able to > > > access to proper Cancer treatment or a heart transplant? > > > > No. By law these are critical health issues. And is a small portion has > > a difficult time there are ways to remedy that without tossing out the > > whole system in favor of one where the entire population has a problem > > accessing this type of care. > > I'd rather have a wait-system rather than a going-bankrupt one. Then why are you supporting Socialized medicine? It is going bankrupt. And then you won't have to worry about going bankrupt yourself for medical treatment because it wont' be available. >And then there is the choice of having a private insurance plan. A good choice for all. Get the government out of the way. > > Did you see the court orders in the UK requiring the NHS to pay for > > people to go abroad for medical care because the UK hospitals can't > > provide it in a timely fashion? > > NHS finally paid, so it was effectively free for them, so? The point is that the availability of medical care has deteriorated so bady under Socialized medicine that people have to go to countries that still have private care. Socialism is failing. Yet again.
From: Jim Ley on 16 Jul 2006 04:50 On 15 Jul 2006 21:50:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Medical care is much better left in private hands. The only things that >the government should be doing are things that private enterprise >simply cannot do. Erm, no Governments should be doing things which are more expensive to be done privately, or privately would cause members of the community to not have access, courts, policing and medical care are pretty good examples of these. Jim.
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 06:06
On 15 Jul 2006 21:50:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: >> On 14 Jul 2006 02:26:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than >> >medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to >> >Socialize medical care? >> >> Because it wouldn't work, and is much better left in private hands, as >> communism has showed us. >> >> The comparison is silly. > >The comparison is *not* silly. Why? Because the same answer applies to >Socialized medicine. It works for a little while but it eventually >fails. Just like Socializing food. Every year in the US thousands more lose out with health care while costs skyrocket, indicating that it's private medicine that is failing. >Medical care is much better left in private hands. The only things that >the government should be doing are things that private enterprise >simply cannot do. You're just putting your head in the sand if you think that. That profit from health funds in the US doesn't just come from thin air you know. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |