From: Al Smith on
>>Air conditioning is a crutch. Maybe they need it in Phoenix. It might be
>>> argued that people shouldn't even be living in places where air
>>> conditioning is essential.
>
>
> Speaking of "crutches", heating is an equal or larger one. Why should
> anyone bother to live where it's cold, other than to spend the warm and
> pleasant months there?


True enough. As a Canadian, I'm looking forward to global warming.
I expect in a few years to be out in shirt sleeves in January.
Global warming is going to be big for Canada. Invest in Canucks.
Remember, you heard it here first.
From: TOliver on

"Al Smith" <invalid(a)address.com> wrote in message
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>>>Air conditioning is a crutch. Maybe they need it in Phoenix. It might be
>>>> argued that people shouldn't even be living in places where air
>>>> conditioning is essential.
>>
>>
>> Speaking of "crutches", heating is an equal or larger one. Why should
>> anyone bother to live where it's cold, other than to spend the warm and
>> pleasant months there?
>
>
> True enough. As a Canadian, I'm looking forward to global warming. I
> expect in a few years to be out in shirt sleeves in January. Global
> warming is going to be big for Canada. Invest in Canucks. Remember, you
> heard it here first.

No, the truth of the matter is that when the glaciers and permafrost melt,
the water will trickle South, converting the barely populated nether regions
of Canada in to pestilent, malarial swamps.

After all, that's how the Great Lakes were formed.

As for warming, you do remember that folks lived in Western Greenland in
1100AD, raised grain and cattle, and it was considerably warmer than now.


From: Mxsmanic on
Miguel Cruz writes:

> The reason for this is pretty simple: People know that heating is more
> necessary than cooling for comfortable and productive living, within the
> range of temperatures that are normally experienced in inhabited areas.

Which inhabited areas? Most of the world's population these days
lives in warm or hot climates.

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From: Mxsmanic on
Keith W writes:

> That depends on where you are comparing it with.

When it comes to human physiology, comparisons and relative
temperatures are not terribly meaningful. It's the absolute
conditions that count, because the requirements of human physiology
are fixed, not relative to external conditions.

Thus, 35 C is hot, even if there are places where it is 50 C.
People in a temperature of 35 C will suffer equally no matter what
the temperatures are elsewhere on the planet. The level of danger is
the same as well.

> I have worked in fabrication yards in all 3 cities and
> havent much sympathy with your whining.

Your sympathy is irrelevant.

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From: Mxsmanic on
nobody writes:

> Wrong. With totally stale air, your perspiration evaporates, providing
> some cooling, but because the air is not moving, the relative humidity
> levels directly near yor skin rises and this slows down sweat
> evaporation and renders the process less effective.

The effect is small in a gravitational field, thanks to convection.

It is indeed a problem in zero gravity, and this has been recognized
for some time.

> With a fan and ambiant temperature below 37, you get cooling from the
> cooler air passing by, as well as more efficient sweat evaporation sicne
> you are constantly brought air that is not fully saturated with water
> (aka: rtelative humidity < 100%).

In high humidity or with low wind speeds, this is not sufficient to
keep you cool. As the temperature and humidity rise, the wind speed
necessary to completely carry off all body heat rises to impractical
levels. Worse yet, since most of the cooling is evaporative, you lose
water at a truly alarming rate in a hot wind, even though you may feel
less sweaty. The water has to be constantly replaced, and the mere
act of sweating is very tiring to the organism over time.

> With ambiant temperature above 37, the fan will not push cooler air,
> but will stuff push air that will help perspiration evaporate and keep
> you cool.

Not cool enough. You need cooling from evaporation sufficient to
compensate for the air temperature above core temperature, and then
even more in order to remove excess heat. That is very difficult to
achieve.

> And note that when it is very humid, temperatures do not often rise
> above body temperature.

They rise regularly far above body temperature, and even slight
humidity is intolerable at high temperatures.

> The really hot temperatures generally happen in
> dry climates where your perspiration works fine.

Not so. In Phoenix it can be 46 and humid; your perspiration does
not work fine.

> When it is 45 in Bagdhad, there is still more people dying from
> american military presence than from heat.

I'm sure the Israelis are working to beat this record.

When it is 37 in Paris, there are more people dying from the heat
than from any American military presence.

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