From: Mxsmanic on
mrtravel writes:

> But, I guess in the old days, they had to stay awake all night, huh?

It the old days, their lifestyles and activities were far more
severely restricted by the climate. If sleeping all day and moving
slowly at night is okay for your lifestyle, you can tolerate a hotter
climate, but if you want to build a modern civilization, you need air
conditioning.

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From: Tchiowa on

The Reid wrote:
> Following up to Tchiowa
>
> >No, the statement was global warming, period. You were completely wrong
> >in your statement. If you made an unwarranted assumption as to the
> >topic then simply acknowledge it and move on. Your repeated attempts to
> >justify your incorrect statement are kind of, well, childish. See
> >below.
>
> OK, you choose to wilfully misunderstand my meaning,

???? Nonsense. Unfortunately for this conversation my psychic abilities
don't extend to Usenet so I have to respond to what people write not to
what they were thinking about when they wrote it.

The fact is that global warming is a completely natural phenomenon. Man
made Global Warming is a completely different topic. If you want to
talk about that then try to be specific.

This is what happens when people let their politics color their view of
science.

> Do you acknowledge *man* *made* global warming is happening and
> is a problem? Yes or no?

I acknowledge that there are computer models to suggest that man is
contributing to a level of global warming that exceeds the normal
warming rate.

Now do you acknowledge that no scientist knows just what that affect
is?

> That is the point.
>
> >Let's make it clear again: there is a difference between natural global
> >warming, which is proven scientific fact, and a potential man-made
> >component adding to that process, which is a different topic
> >altogether.
>
> nope, its the one we are discussing but the one you seek to avoid.

No. It is one that you were discussing in your own mind but didn't
bother to mention when you challenged my statement.

> The context is one of excessive consumerism and industrial
> pollution causing big increases in warming, apparently you think
> that meant we talking about "naturally" occurring phenomena.

Again, apparently you weren't aware of the difference and still aren't
aware that there is no clear cut line to differentiate.

> If it was "no"
>
> I repeat my original comment:-
> "do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise?"
>
> If it is "yes" I congratulate you on starting to see the problems
> of the future rather than fight yesterdays wars with what you
> call "socialism".

I'm beginning to understand why you seem to be confused all the time in
your posts. Now you're combining the theory of man's contribution to
Global Warming with a discussion on economic theory and Socialism.
Unrelated topics.

From: mrtravel on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> mrtravel writes:
>
>
>>But, I guess in the old days, they had to stay awake all night, huh?
>
>
> It the old days, their lifestyles and activities were far more
> severely restricted by the climate. If sleeping all day and moving
> slowly at night is okay for your lifestyle, you can tolerate a hotter
> climate, but if you want to build a modern civilization, you need air
> conditioning.
>

You said it was difficult to sleep in these conditions.
Now you start talking about "If sleeping all day and moving slowly at
night". I thought we were talking about the conditions for sleeping at
night.
From: Mxsmanic on
mrtravel writes:

> You said it was difficult to sleep in these conditions.

It is, but eventually you're exhausted enough to do so. And in some
cases, you sweat less if you don't move, or you can find a spot that
is cool in which to sleep, even if it allows for nothing else.

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From: mrtravel on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> mrtravel writes:
>
>
>>You said it was difficult to sleep in these conditions.
>
>
> It is, but eventually you're exhausted enough to do so. And in some
> cases, you sweat less if you don't move, or you can find a spot that
> is cool in which to sleep, even if it allows for nothing else.
>

Do you think that the people living in the climate have adjusted to the
climate in a way that permits them to sleep?