Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 06:46 Dave Frightens Me wrote: > On 15 Jul 2006 21:55:22 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Jordi wrote: > >> Tchiowa wrote: > >> > Jordi wrote: > >> > > >> > Capitalism needs to have fences around it, rules and regulations to > >> > prevent abuse. Other than that, yes I'm 100% for it. > >> > > >> > But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than > >> > medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to > >> > Socialize medical care? > >> > >> See Dave's reply. > > > >See my reply. Socialism fails in Medical care just as surely as it > >fails in food. > > You are comparing apples with bedpans. They are incomparable. They are exactly the same. Service and products provided by some people to other people. Always, and I repeat *ALWAYS* works better in private industry than government.
From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 06:48 Mxsmanic wrote: > Tchiowa writes: > > > The comparison is *not* silly. Why? Because the same answer applies to > > Socialized medicine. It works for a little while but it eventually > > fails. Just like Socializing food. > > Socialized medicine can work if it is very carefully policed to avoid > fraud and waste. No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs while ignoring tomorrow's. Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving Canada in droves.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 07:01 Tchiowa writes: > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs > while ignoring tomorrow's. None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine. > Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has > either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching > bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving > Canada in droves. It works fine in France. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 09:28 On 16 Jul 2006 03:46:05 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: >> On 15 Jul 2006 21:55:22 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >Jordi wrote: >> >> Tchiowa wrote: >> >> > Jordi wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Capitalism needs to have fences around it, rules and regulations to >> >> > prevent abuse. Other than that, yes I'm 100% for it. >> >> > >> >> > But you ducked the question. Food is even more important to health than >> >> > medical care. Why would you not want to Socialize food like you want to >> >> > Socialize medical care? >> >> >> >> See Dave's reply. >> > >> >See my reply. Socialism fails in Medical care just as surely as it >> >fails in food. >> >> You are comparing apples with bedpans. They are incomparable. > >They are exactly the same. Service and products provided by some people >to other people. Always, and I repeat *ALWAYS* works better in private >industry than government. Especially when propped up with huge amounts of public funds, like Americas health system. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 09:30
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:18:27 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Tchiowa writes: > >> See my reply. Socialism fails in Medical care just as surely as it >> fails in food. > >What examples are there of socialism in food? Look at any instance of stalinist communism, and the quality of food that is/was available. Actually, perhaps you are the wrong person to ask about food. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |