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From: Keith W on 27 Jul 2006 05:19 "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:uitfc2tkon6lkegpi9patrfu649r676sr3(a)4ax.com... > Dave Frightens Me writes: > >> Name a few such countries. > > Essentially all of them: Singapore, India, Thailand, Nigeria, Saudi > Arabia, etc. They all have air conditioning. While the Third World > may still lag somewhat behind the most developed countries, it hasn't > been standing still. > Absolute cobblers I lived in Singapore for a few months, while most businesses had AC a large percentage of residential properties did not. Singapore is very much a 1st world country by the way. They have the highest ratio of college graduates per capita in the world IRC Less than 5% of the population of India have AC, indeed in most villages the electricity supply is inadequate for anything other than lighting In Thailand the situation is somewhat similar, AC is fairly widespread amongst the upper socio economic classes but not available for the majority. In Nigeria outside of foreign compounds and government offices its almost unknown. Most Nigerians count themselves lucky to have a transistor radio let alone AC Note I have spent time in ALL these countries, you are clearly clueless. Keith
From: Dave Frightens Me on 27 Jul 2006 05:23 On 26 Jul 2006 23:49:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:18:12 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Keith W writes: >> > >> >> 30 deg and 32% humidity isnt extreme, they regard such conditions >> >> as positively chilly in the Far East >> > >> >It's difficult to even sleep in such conditions, and in the Far East, >> >they have air conditioning, like everywhere else. >> >> No, they don't. Go there, and you will see. > >I live in Thailand. Does this mean I have to go yank the >air-conditioning out of my Bangkok apartment? How about the window unit >in my house up country? Did that stop working magically over night? > >Or do you not know what you're talking about? Air con is generally reserved for ex-pats in Thailand. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Tchiowa on 27 Jul 2006 05:29 The Reid wrote: > Following up to Tchiowa > > >> OK, you choose to wilfully misunderstand my meaning, > > > >???? Nonsense. Unfortunately for this conversation my psychic abilities > >don't extend to Usenet so I have to respond to what people write not to > >what they were thinking about when they wrote it. > > >The fact is that global warming is a completely natural phenomenon. Man > >made Global Warming is a completely different topic. If you want to > >talk about that then try to be specific. > > you are proving you are willfully misunderstanding. You're proving that you don't understand just about anything, willfully or otherwise. All you have to do is to acknowledge that you misspoke and go on from there. > >This is what happens when people let their politics color their view of > >science. Which you just demonstrated again. > >> Do you acknowledge *man* *made* global warming is happening and > >> is a problem? Yes or no? > > > >I acknowledge that there are computer models to suggest that man is > >contributing to a level of global warming that exceeds the normal > >warming rate. > > in at least partial denial then. > I repeat my original comment:- > "do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise?" And in this case your comment is just as wrong. What I wrote is pretty much the consensus of the world's scientists. > >> >Let's make it clear again: there is a difference between natural global > >> >warming, which is proven scientific fact, and a potential man-made > >> >component adding to that process, which is a different topic > >> >altogether. > > its the one we were and are discussing, over consumption, three > cars etc etc, remember? > > >> nope, its the one we are discussing but the one you seek to avoid. > > > >No. It is one that you were discussing in your own mind but didn't > >bother to mention when you challenged my statement. > > given that I since made it *blindingly* clear what I was talking about, Only in your own mind. > its clear your insistence on talking about something else > shows you either don't want to discuss the subject or are just > pretending to be thick. Non arsehole reaction would be along the > lines of "Oh, you meant that, in that case....". Be specific and you'll get that kind of reaction. Your demand that you be declared right even though you are clearly wrong is kind of childish. Kind of like the name-calling you seem so fond of. > >> If it is "yes" I congratulate you on starting to see the problems > >> of the future rather than fight yesterdays wars with what you > >> call "socialism". > > > >I'm beginning to understand why you seem to be confused all the time in > >your posts. Now you're combining the theory of man's contribution to > >Global Warming with a discussion on economic theory and Socialism. > >Unrelated topics. > > No, *you* harp on about socialism. Not me. As I said, you are > fighting yesterdays battles. "Yesterday's battles"??? There was a discussion about medical care *TODAY*, economic policy *TODAY*, etc. Those are today's discussions. People like you are still trying to cling to an economic philosophy that failed. > Economic theory and warming are linked in that in a purely > capitalist system dependant on growth there is no mechanism to > accomodate the new reality of the priority of reducing emissions. > this was my original point. I guess you need to learn what Capitalism means before you continue to make comments. Capitalism has exactly zero do with mechanisms to accomodate new realities. Or are you talking about some other form of Capitalism that you forgot to specify and are assuming that people here can read you mind?
From: Tchiowa on 27 Jul 2006 05:39 Keith W wrote: > "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uitfc2tkon6lkegpi9patrfu649r676sr3(a)4ax.com... > > Dave Frightens Me writes: > > > >> Name a few such countries. > > > > Essentially all of them: Singapore, India, Thailand, Nigeria, Saudi > > Arabia, etc. They all have air conditioning. While the Third World > > may still lag somewhat behind the most developed countries, it hasn't > > been standing still. > > > > Absolute cobblers > > I lived in Singapore for a few months, while most businesses had > AC a large percentage of residential properties did not. Singapore > is very much a 1st world country by the way. They have the > highest ratio of college graduates per capita in the world IRC I've been in a dozen residential flats in Singapore and all had A/C. > Less than 5% of the population of India have AC, indeed in most villages > the electricity supply is inadequate for anything other than lighting True. > In Thailand the situation is somewhat similar, AC is fairly widespread > amongst the upper socio economic classes but not available for > the majority. Blithering nonsense. I live in Thailand. A/C is not commonly used in farming areas because the houses aren't sufficiently well-insulated. But during the hottest times of the year the locals complain about difficulty sleeping. The majority of people in Thailand have A/C available. Whether they choose to buy it or not is a different story. In Bangkok probably 95% of the middle class has A/C and half of the poor. > In Nigeria outside of foreign compounds and government offices > its almost unknown. Most Nigerians count themselves lucky > to have a transistor radio let alone AC I've lived in Nigeria for 2-3 years total. Again, in the rural areas where there is no A/C you're right. But in Lagos or Abuja or PH A/C is not at all uncommon. And your comment about radios is kind of silly. Maybe 20 years ago. > Note I have spent time in ALL these countries, you are clearly > clueless. > > Keith
From: Tchiowa on 27 Jul 2006 05:50
Dave Frightens Me wrote: > On 26 Jul 2006 23:49:26 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:18:12 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Keith W writes: > >> > > >> >> 30 deg and 32% humidity isnt extreme, they regard such conditions > >> >> as positively chilly in the Far East > >> > > >> >It's difficult to even sleep in such conditions, and in the Far East, > >> >they have air conditioning, like everywhere else. > >> > >> No, they don't. Go there, and you will see. > > > >I live in Thailand. Does this mean I have to go yank the > >air-conditioning out of my Bangkok apartment? How about the window unit > >in my house up country? Did that stop working magically over night? > > > >Or do you not know what you're talking about? > > Air con is generally reserved for ex-pats in Thailand. Nonsense. That completely defies the reality here in Bangkok. |