From: Go Fig on
In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
<mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Tchiowa writes:
>
> > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the
> > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs
> > while ignoring tomorrow's.
>
> None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine.

So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ?

jay
Sun Jul 16, 2006
mailto:gofig(a)mac.com


>
> > Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has
> > either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching
> > bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving
> > Canada in droves.
>
> It works fine in France.
From: Mxsmanic on
Go Fig writes:

> So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ?

When I think of stable, affordable, accessible, good-quality medical
care for all, I think of France. It is possible for the very rich to
get slightly better care in the United States, but the average person
is in about the same position, and many Americans can't get any decent
care at all.

Some other nationalized medicine systems are in much worse shape. The
NHS in the UK, for example, is a shining example of how not to run
such a system.

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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:24:59 -0700, Go Fig <gofig(a)mac.com> wrote:

>In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
><mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tchiowa writes:
>>
>> > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the
>> > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs
>> > while ignoring tomorrow's.
>>
>> None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine.
>
>So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ?

When you think of quality of life, do you think of the USA?

BTW, thanks for sacrificing yourselves for the rest of us ungrateful
bastards.
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From: Tchiowa on

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Tchiowa writes:
>
> > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the
> > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs
> > while ignoring tomorrow's.
>
> None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine.
>
> > Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has
> > either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching
> > bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving
> > Canada in droves.
>
> It works fine in France.

?????

Socialism is *killing* France. What do you think is behind the 10%+
unemployment that they just can't bring down?

From: Tchiowa on

Go Fig wrote:
> In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
> <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tchiowa writes:
> >
> > > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the
> > > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs
> > > while ignoring tomorrow's.
> >
> > None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine.
>
> So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ?

I saw a very interesting "debate" on one of the news shows a couple of
years ago (seems like it was Hard Talk but I'm not sure). The debate
was about Socialized Medicine as it relates to drugs. Canada tightly
controls drug prices to keep their Socialized Medicine system afloat.
There was a Canadian government leader defending that. On the other
side was a drug company exec. The drug exec said that the price
controls in Canada had stopped innovation. No new drugs are being
developed in Canada. The government official refuted that. He pointed
out that in the last decade *3*(!!) new drugs had been developed in
Canada. That's right. 3!!!!!! Proving what the drug exec said. In the
same period of time probably 3,000 had been developed in the US.

Socialized medicine kills innovation.

Let's simplify that statement.

Socialized (you fill in the blank with anything you can think of) kills
innovation.