From: Go Fig on 16 Jul 2006 11:24 In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tchiowa writes: > > > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the > > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs > > while ignoring tomorrow's. > > None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine. So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ? jay Sun Jul 16, 2006 mailto:gofig(a)mac.com > > > Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has > > either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching > > bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving > > Canada in droves. > > It works fine in France.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 13:41 Go Fig writes: > So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ? When I think of stable, affordable, accessible, good-quality medical care for all, I think of France. It is possible for the very rich to get slightly better care in the United States, but the average person is in about the same position, and many Americans can't get any decent care at all. Some other nationalized medicine systems are in much worse shape. The NHS in the UK, for example, is a shining example of how not to run such a system. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 13:44 On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:24:59 -0700, Go Fig <gofig(a)mac.com> wrote: >In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic ><mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tchiowa writes: >> >> > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the >> > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs >> > while ignoring tomorrow's. >> >> None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine. > >So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ? When you think of quality of life, do you think of the USA? BTW, thanks for sacrificing yourselves for the rest of us ungrateful bastards. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 21:21 Mxsmanic wrote: > Tchiowa writes: > > > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the > > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs > > while ignoring tomorrow's. > > None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine. > > > Every where that it's been tried for an extended period of time it has > > either failed or is failing. Long lines in the UK. Approaching > > bankruptcy in Sweden. Long lines, no innovation and doctors leaving > > Canada in droves. > > It works fine in France. ????? Socialism is *killing* France. What do you think is behind the 10%+ unemployment that they just can't bring down?
From: Tchiowa on 16 Jul 2006 21:30
Go Fig wrote: > In article <p27kb2t3tpb9gm0tb7ukh2spmp1ce16vg5(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic > <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Tchiowa writes: > > > > > No it can't. Why? Because the very core of Socialism is to ignore the > > > basics of human nature. It is also based on providing today's needs > > > while ignoring tomorrow's. > > > > None of this seems relevant to the concept of socialized medicine. > > So when you think of modern medical advancements, you think of France ? I saw a very interesting "debate" on one of the news shows a couple of years ago (seems like it was Hard Talk but I'm not sure). The debate was about Socialized Medicine as it relates to drugs. Canada tightly controls drug prices to keep their Socialized Medicine system afloat. There was a Canadian government leader defending that. On the other side was a drug company exec. The drug exec said that the price controls in Canada had stopped innovation. No new drugs are being developed in Canada. The government official refuted that. He pointed out that in the last decade *3*(!!) new drugs had been developed in Canada. That's right. 3!!!!!! Proving what the drug exec said. In the same period of time probably 3,000 had been developed in the US. Socialized medicine kills innovation. Let's simplify that statement. Socialized (you fill in the blank with anything you can think of) kills innovation. |