From: The Reid on
Following up to Miguel Cruz

>People in cold climates complain about the cold, people in wet climates
>complain about the rain

I'm in a wet, cool, climate complaining about the heat :-)
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From: TOliver on

"mrtravel" <mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote ...
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>
>> Dave Frightens Me writes:
>>
>>
>>>No it is not. Hypothermia is a much greater risk that hyperthermia.
>>
>>
>> Right now officials in California are complaining that they don't have
>> enough space to contain all the dead bodies from the heat wave. You
>> don't often hear that in winter, even when the cold is very extreme.
>>
>
> Can you cite this?
> I am in California, and I seemed to have missed this on the local news.

My morning paper under an AP tag promised two to the gurney in Fresno County
where 20 have pooped out, with 81 deaths statewide attributable to the heat.

Quaintly, and any time Mixomaniacal could be right would be quaint, the
numbers from the last Paris "Heat Wave" do suggest that in some places
"heat" may actually outweigh "cold" as the cause of death among elderly
populations. Certainly, in the US, among small children and infants, the
media are full every Summer of puir bambini left in vehicles by their
mothers, nursery school drivers, etc.. The total number of deaths is
shocking, but then that sort of neglect always shocks.

Although obviously untrue in large belts of the globe, in the Latitude of
the "Lower 30s", it's often far easier to find a place that's warm than one
which is cool. Of course, here, one of those stats governments use,
"Heating Days" (days in which homes and business are likely to operate
heating equipment) are far outnumbered by "Cooling Days" (days when the AC
is needed for comfort).

Individual reactions to temperature vary widely (and seem likely much
connected with "pre-conditioning"). Most USAians would find Mixie's 31C/30%
Humidity mildly uncomfortable yet hardly limiting function. Move the
humidity up above 50%, and the same 31C/88F becomes almost unbearble for
heavy outdoor work.

TMO


From: Keith Willshaw on

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rn6jc29uqct8h4chcf9gp0d9h9jcg2k7qc(a)4ax.com...
> JohnT writes:
>
>> What extreme cold is there in Southern California? it did snow once in
>> San
>> Diego, briefly, but that was in 1912.
>
> What extreme cold anywhere in the U.S. has caused thousands or even
> hundreds of deaths?
>

The Merck Manual of Geriatrics reports that "in the USA, about 75,000
'excess winter deaths' occur among the elderly, including deaths from
hypothermia and deaths associated with many other winter risks, such as
influenza and pneumonia. Among identified cases of hypothermia, the
mortality rate is 50%. Of persons with hypothermia, those over 75 years are
five times more likely to die than those under 75 years."

This is not just an American phenomena

In the winter of 2004/05 (December to March) there were an estimated 31,600
more deaths in England and Wales compared to levels in the non-winter period
This was an increase on the low numbers seen in the previous four years but
was still less than was seen during the winter of 1999/2000, when there were
48,440 more deaths compared to levels in the non-winter period

The number of additional deaths occurring in winter varies depending on
temperature and the level of disease in the population, as well as other
factors.

Examine the graph at the URL below and you'll see mortaily rates peak
in winter and are at their lowest in summer.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=574

Keith


From: mrtravel on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> mrtravel writes:
>
>
>>Does it differ in the southern part of the planet?
>
>
> Yes, since the seasons are reversed.
>

But they still have seasons, despite the water going down the drain with
the spin in the opposite direction.
So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather
in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or
southern hemisphere?
From: mrtravel on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> mrtravel writes:
>
>
>>Does it differ in the southern part of the planet?
>
>
> Yes, since the seasons are reversed.
>

But they still have seasons, despite the water going down the drain with
the spin in the opposite direction.
So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather
in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or
southern hemisphere?