From: The Reid on 28 Jul 2006 07:04 Following up to Miguel Cruz >People in cold climates complain about the cold, people in wet climates >complain about the rain I'm in a wet, cool, climate complaining about the heat :-) -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
From: TOliver on 28 Jul 2006 08:58 "mrtravel" <mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote ... > Mxsmanic wrote: > >> Dave Frightens Me writes: >> >> >>>No it is not. Hypothermia is a much greater risk that hyperthermia. >> >> >> Right now officials in California are complaining that they don't have >> enough space to contain all the dead bodies from the heat wave. You >> don't often hear that in winter, even when the cold is very extreme. >> > > Can you cite this? > I am in California, and I seemed to have missed this on the local news. My morning paper under an AP tag promised two to the gurney in Fresno County where 20 have pooped out, with 81 deaths statewide attributable to the heat. Quaintly, and any time Mixomaniacal could be right would be quaint, the numbers from the last Paris "Heat Wave" do suggest that in some places "heat" may actually outweigh "cold" as the cause of death among elderly populations. Certainly, in the US, among small children and infants, the media are full every Summer of puir bambini left in vehicles by their mothers, nursery school drivers, etc.. The total number of deaths is shocking, but then that sort of neglect always shocks. Although obviously untrue in large belts of the globe, in the Latitude of the "Lower 30s", it's often far easier to find a place that's warm than one which is cool. Of course, here, one of those stats governments use, "Heating Days" (days in which homes and business are likely to operate heating equipment) are far outnumbered by "Cooling Days" (days when the AC is needed for comfort). Individual reactions to temperature vary widely (and seem likely much connected with "pre-conditioning"). Most USAians would find Mixie's 31C/30% Humidity mildly uncomfortable yet hardly limiting function. Move the humidity up above 50%, and the same 31C/88F becomes almost unbearble for heavy outdoor work. TMO
From: Keith Willshaw on 28 Jul 2006 09:37 "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:rn6jc29uqct8h4chcf9gp0d9h9jcg2k7qc(a)4ax.com... > JohnT writes: > >> What extreme cold is there in Southern California? it did snow once in >> San >> Diego, briefly, but that was in 1912. > > What extreme cold anywhere in the U.S. has caused thousands or even > hundreds of deaths? > The Merck Manual of Geriatrics reports that "in the USA, about 75,000 'excess winter deaths' occur among the elderly, including deaths from hypothermia and deaths associated with many other winter risks, such as influenza and pneumonia. Among identified cases of hypothermia, the mortality rate is 50%. Of persons with hypothermia, those over 75 years are five times more likely to die than those under 75 years." This is not just an American phenomena In the winter of 2004/05 (December to March) there were an estimated 31,600 more deaths in England and Wales compared to levels in the non-winter period This was an increase on the low numbers seen in the previous four years but was still less than was seen during the winter of 1999/2000, when there were 48,440 more deaths compared to levels in the non-winter period The number of additional deaths occurring in winter varies depending on temperature and the level of disease in the population, as well as other factors. Examine the graph at the URL below and you'll see mortaily rates peak in winter and are at their lowest in summer. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=574 Keith
From: mrtravel on 28 Jul 2006 11:58 Mxsmanic wrote: > mrtravel writes: > > >>Does it differ in the southern part of the planet? > > > Yes, since the seasons are reversed. > But they still have seasons, despite the water going down the drain with the spin in the opposite direction. So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or southern hemisphere?
From: mrtravel on 28 Jul 2006 11:59
Mxsmanic wrote: > mrtravel writes: > > >>Does it differ in the southern part of the planet? > > > Yes, since the seasons are reversed. > But they still have seasons, despite the water going down the drain with the spin in the opposite direction. So, if you think that deaths due to weather happen more due to weather in the summer. Does it matter if the location is in the northern or southern hemisphere? |