From: tim.... on

"Tom P" <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote in message
news:8875qaFoedU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> tim.... wrote:
>> "Tom P" <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote in message
>> news:884solFc0pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> bart.c wrote:
>>>> "Ben Dover" <joe_mama(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:tW3Tn.101477$304.53102(a)newsfe12.iad...
>>>>> I am in the early stages of planning a trip to Europe that includes
>>>>> flying to Rome, renting a car, then driving around the Adriatic to
>>>>> Athens. From Athens I will be sailing to Amorgos, spend a week or
>>>>> two,
>>>>> then back to Romen via the ferry. Does anyone have any experience
>>>>> driving this route? Any advice appreciated!
>>>> Well, Rome is the opposite side of Italy from the Adriatic. There are
>>>> some airports on the Adriatic coast that might save you some driving.
>>>>
>>>> And you might want to check that with the rental company (especially if
>>>> planning a one-way rental, which is not clear.)
>>>>
>>> I gather he's planning a round trip, in which he'd better check if the
>>> rental company allows him to drive through places like Albania and
>>> Montenegro.
>>
>> There is no chance of him getting a car that he can take into Albania -
>> I'd love for someone to prove me wrong :-(.
>>
>> IME it is next to impossible to find anyone even willing to let you take
>> a rental car into Serbia.
>>
>> Note that the Serbian border police will check that you do have valid
>> documents for your car so "winging it" is not advisable.
>>
>> If he can get insurance, he should note that he must not drive "through"
>> Kosovo if he wishes to drive back via Serbia later, as the Serbians will
>> not recognise the Kosovo exit stamp as a valid Serbian point of exit (I
>> know he said that he didn't want to do this, but his plans could change).
>>
>
> BTW any idea what the situation is if the car gets stolen or written off
> in an accident? Does he become liable for import duty?

Dunno, but now that you mention it I'm reminded that it was made very clear
to me (in excellent English) that the "insurance" would only cover the cost
of an accident if I, and the other party, stopped and filled in a form that
they supplied.

After I left the office I started wondering if that meant that I wasn't
covered at all for a "single vehicle" accident or vandalism. Fortunately, I
never found out (though I came close, as ISTR I commented on my report here
at the time).

tim


From: tim.... on

"Ben Dover" <newshound2(a)charter.net> wrote in message
news:T0uTn.17182$3y2.15222(a)newsfe11.iad...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:04:27 +0100, tim.... wrote:
>
>> "Tom P" <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote in message
>> news:884solFc0pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> bart.c wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Ben Dover" <joe_mama(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:tW3Tn.101477$304.53102(a)newsfe12.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in the early stages of planning a trip to Europe that includes
>>>>> flying to Rome, renting a car, then driving around the Adriatic to
>>>>> Athens. From Athens I will be sailing to Amorgos, spend a week or
>>>>> two, then back to Romen via the ferry. Does anyone have any
>>>>> experience driving this route? Any advice appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Well, Rome is the opposite side of Italy from the Adriatic. There are
>>>> some airports on the Adriatic coast that might save you some driving.
>>>>
>>>> And you might want to check that with the rental company (especially
>>>> if planning a one-way rental, which is not clear.)
>>>>
>>> I gather he's planning a round trip, in which he'd better check if the
>>> rental company allows him to drive through places like Albania and
>>> Montenegro.
>>
>> There is no chance of him getting a car that he can take into Albania -
>> I'd love for someone to prove me wrong :-(.
>>
>> IME it is next to impossible to find anyone even willing to let you take
>> a rental car into Serbia.
>>
>> Note that the Serbian border police will check that you do have valid
>> documents for your car so "winging it" is not advisable.
>>
>> If he can get insurance, he should note that he must not drive "through"
>> Kosovo if he wishes to drive back via Serbia later, as the Serbians will
>> not recognise the Kosovo exit stamp as a valid Serbian point of exit (I
>> know he said that he didn't want to do this, but his plans could
>> change).
>>
>> I'm wondering what the OP actually wanted from his question.
>>
>> Does he want advice on driving, route options, sightseeing or places to
>> stay?
>>
>> tim
>
>
> Thanks, for your response. As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage
> of planning this trip. My original intent was to rent a car and drive,
> from Rome to the Adriatic shore, then hug the coastline. Thus the
> information I'm requesting has more to do with driving regulations,
> country to country, than hotel recommendations, etc. From the feedback
> I'm receiving, it sounds like driving may not be worth the hassle.

You may be right, especially as you will have (and pay for) the car for two
weeks on a tiny island where you can (almost) walk from one end to the
other.

It is definitely worthwhile driving the Eastern Adriatic coastline, but
starting from Rome is going to be difficult.

Though starting from Greece is not going to help, as I found it impossible
to rent a car that would let me go to any of the former Eastern Europe
countries (I wanted to go to FYROM). (ISTR I was allowed to go to W Europe
via the ferry to Italy, but ISTM that this is not an entirely cost effective
thing to do with a rental car)

tim


From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on
In rec.travel.europe Ben Dover <newshound2(a)charter.net> wrote:
> Thanks, for your response. As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage
> of planning this trip. My original intent was to rent a car and drive,
> from Rome to the Adriatic shore, then hug the coastline.

Be advised that the Croatian coastline is broken up by a little
piece of Bosnia and Hercegovina that sticks out to the shore. If
there's any country in Europe that will not be covered by Western rental
insurance, it's BIH.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
From: Martin on
On 20/06/10 20:04, tim.... wrote:

> I'm wondering what the OP actually wanted from his question.


What does the name Ben Dover imply? That his best friend is Phil McAvity?
From: Mike Lane on
Ben Dover wrote on Jun 20, 2010:

> As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage of planning this trip. My
> original intent was to rent a car and drive, from Rome to the Adriatic
> shore, then hug the coastline. Thus the information I'm requesting has
> more to do with driving regulations, country to country, than hotel
> recommendations, etc. From the feedback I'm receiving, it sounds like
> driving may not be worth the hassle. But any advice regarding hotels,
> places of interest, is appreciated!

You've got to decide on your itinerary and means of travel before thinking
about hotels and places of interest etc.

I don't think it's sensible to rent a car in Europe to take into another
country, but have you considered buying or leasing a car under the various
'buy-back' schemes offered by some European car manufactures? If you did this
you would be free to take your car where ever you wanted. Peugeot and Renault
I think do this kind of thing. Have a look at this website:
http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/car_rentals.htm

I've driven my own car from the UK to Greece several times, but I've always
taken a ferry from Italy to Greece. Driving through countries of the former
Republic of Yugoslavia seems just too dangerous. Ferries go to Greece from
Venice, Ancona, and Brindisi. From Rome, Brindisi would probably be the best
- it's a nice small town and the ferries sail daily to Igoumenitsa and Patras
in Greece.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
email: mike_lane at mac dot com

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