From: Mxsmanic on
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

> While this is certainly possible, there are new views that this is
> in fact indicative of problems that modern man has with running,
> not problems with humans running in general.

Given the stress that jogging puts on the knees, it is surprising that human
beings tolerate it so well.

> Filthy buses, smog filled air, few trees, concrete as far as the
> eye can see, that's the city. People who live in the suburbs might
> have plenty of clean air, birds, trees, grass, wild animals
> wandering about, that sort of thing.

It depends on whether you prefer people or things.
From: John Rennie on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gregory Morrow writes:
>
>> Now the capitalist fat cats are skinny, you don't see many wealthy people
>> who are fat, and obesity is endemic in the poorer classes, primarily a
>> result of poor but starchy diets.
>
> In the poorest countries, the poorest people die of starvation, because there
> no food. In weatlhy countries, the poorest people die of complications of
> obesity, because the cheapest food is very calorie-dense.

According to a recent Scientific Magazine article (I've
forgotten the date) obesity is affecting the poor as
much as starvation. Indeed it is almost as prevalent.
The reason: it's rotten food e.g. too much starch that
puts on weight. That tendency is found in poor countries
as well as rich.
From: Mxsmanic on
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

> Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. Of course if you insist
> on buying pre-made TV dinners, your costs will skyrocket.

Food costs have skyrocketed in recent years, and balanced foods with good
general nutritional value and expensive ingredients like protein are always
more expensive than cheap carbohydrates.
From: John Rennie on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Jogging is a middle and upper class activity.
>
> It's also a very poor form of exercise, since it helps the heart, but harms
> just about everything else.
>
> Cycling, swimming, or simply walking are all superior.

Now that's what I call cheering news.
From: John Rennie on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:
>
>> While this is certainly possible, there are new views that this is
>> in fact indicative of problems that modern man has with running,
>> not problems with humans running in general.
>
> Given the stress that jogging puts on the knees, it is surprising that human
> beings tolerate it so well.
>
>> Filthy buses, smog filled air, few trees, concrete as far as the
>> eye can see, that's the city. People who live in the suburbs might
>> have plenty of clean air, birds, trees, grass, wild animals
>> wandering about, that sort of thing.
>
> It depends on whether you prefer people or things.

Bill is definitely a 'thing's man.