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From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on 30 Jan 2010 15:26 Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote: > > Mxsmanic wrote: >> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: >> >>> Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. Of course if you insist >>> on buying pre-made TV dinners, your costs will skyrocket. >> Food costs have skyrocketed in recent years, and balanced foods with good >> general nutritional value and expensive ingredients like protein are always >> more expensive than cheap carbohydrates. >> > Even the "poor" in first world countries have generally enough > money to buy staple foods. Exactly! ("Staple" being defined as flour, potatoes, rice and other grains ..... all high in starch but "filling".)
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 30 Jan 2010 12:04 "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: > > Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote: > > > > Mxsmanic wrote: > >> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > >> > >>> Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. Of course if you insist > >>> on buying pre-made TV dinners, your costs will skyrocket. > >> Food costs have skyrocketed in recent years, and balanced foods with good > >> general nutritional value and expensive ingredients like protein are always > >> more expensive than cheap carbohydrates. > >> > > Even the "poor" in first world countries have generally enough > > money to buy staple foods. > > Exactly! ("Staple" being defined as flour, potatoes, rice and other > grains ..... all high in starch but "filling".) > Subsistence cultures have eaten staples for thousands of years. They generally didn't get refined flour white bread, however. Consider also that they tended to have a grain and a legume. The amount of fibre in this sort of diet is radically greater than in the one you are suggesting. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 30 Jan 2010 12:07 "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: > > Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote: > > > > Mxsmanic wrote: > >> Gregory Morrow writes: > >> > >>> Now the capitalist fat cats are skinny, you don't see many wealthy people > >>> who are fat, and obesity is endemic in the poorer classes, primarily a > >>> result of poor but starchy diets. > >> In the poorest countries, the poorest people die of starvation, because there > >> no food. In weatlhy countries, the poorest people die of complications of > >> obesity, because the cheapest food is very calorie-dense. > >> > > Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. > > Depends upon your choice of food! > Of course if you go out for squished duck at La Tour d'Argent every night, you are going to spend a lot of dough. > If you can buy high quality protein > and fresh produce year-round, it is far from "cheap". > Comparing it to the cost of processed foods, it's cheap. > High carbohydrate > foods, on the other hand..... (But of course, that's the point Mxxi was > making.) > Claiming. I would say that good foods that you make the meal yourself with compare very favourably cost wise to prepared foods. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 30 Jan 2010 12:30 "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: > > Mxsmanic wrote: > > Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > > > >> Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. Of course if you insist > >> on buying pre-made TV dinners, your costs will skyrocket. > > > > Food costs have skyrocketed in recent years, and balanced foods with good > > general nutritional value and expensive ingredients like protein are always > > more expensive than cheap carbohydrates. > > I don't think it does any good to confuse this jerk with facts, Mxxi! > You are calling me the jerk here when all I've done is discuss the issue? Your behaviour is what seems jerk like to me. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 30 Jan 2010 12:58
John Rennie wrote: > > Mxsmanic wrote: > > Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > > > >> While this is certainly possible, there are new views that this is > >> in fact indicative of problems that modern man has with running, > >> not problems with humans running in general. > > > > Given the stress that jogging puts on the knees, it is surprising that human > > beings tolerate it so well. > > > >> Filthy buses, smog filled air, few trees, concrete as far as the > >> eye can see, that's the city. People who live in the suburbs might > >> have plenty of clean air, birds, trees, grass, wild animals > >> wandering about, that sort of thing. > > > > It depends on whether you prefer people or things. > > Bill is definitely a 'thing's man. > I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean although I'll assume it's yet another insult. I'm not materialist in the sense of being greedy, if that's what you mean by 'things'. And I'm not uninterested in conversation, although I want the conversation to be about issues and not gossip. I know people who are worried endlessly about who is dating who and that sort of thing. It seems juvenile out of a 16 year old much less an adult. Regarding the city being where the people are, I've noticed that people give progressively less attention to each other as they get closer to the big city. Acknowledging everyone who comes by may be the norm in a rural setting. Water, water, everywhere, no one really talks to anyone. I've noticed that cyclists or joggers tend to acknowledge someone passing them almost universally, when they are also biking or running. People out for a walk often ignore others. When backpacking, I've noticed that the rules change, day hikers tend to have the big city ways and just go on by without saying anything. I've commented on returning to civilization that we're now within the range of day hikers because the people are behaving differently. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said. |