From: Mxsmanic on
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

> Depends upon your choice of food! If you can buy high quality protein
> and fresh produce year-round, it is far from "cheap". High carbohydrate
> foods, on the other hand..... (But of course, that's the point Mxxi was
> making.)

Food is an incredibly expensive fuel.

In fact, it has recently occurred to me that riding a bicycle to work may
actually be worse for the environment than driving a car. Extracting and
processing the fuel for the car is less wasteful than growing food and
consuming it to provide power for the bicycle. People think that cycling is
"free" and thus doesn't damage the environment, but in fact it burns calories,
and those calories are incredibly expensive to produce.

For example, a glass of whole milk contains about 215 calories, but vastly
more than that was burned just to produce the milk and raise the cows. The
same is true for food made from plants--most of the energy goes to raising the
plants, and the energy cost is very, very high. To get to the bicycle, you
have to waste huge amounts of energy keeping both animals and plants alive.
From: Earl Evleth on
On 30/01/10 16:06, in article 4B644B06.51D4B4DB(a), "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
<tribuyltinafpant(a)> wrote:

>> I've already explained the inequality of the situation.
> I don't see any inequality.

There is a large one considering the non-unionized worker
and the management.

>> In fact, it is precisely this inequality that gave rise to labor unions.

> Unions are monopolies which remove the bargain from the employer
> and employee relationship. They make everyone equal no matter what
> effort they put in on the job or how good they are at the job.

For the workers the company looks like a monopoly. A single union
which represents most of the workers is functioning on
equal grounds.

In France, for instance the local transport workers are unionized
but several unions. They all don't necessarily strike. There is
long ongoing conflict between the CFT and the CGDT, and also
the Force Ouvri´┐Żre. The latter was created after WWII proportedly
using secret funds from the USA, in order to oppose the communist
lead CGT which in turn was a mouthpiece for the USSR.

You can't call French unions a monopoly since they don't have
a unified goal.

Unlike the USA, strikes here usually only last a day or two. If a
transportation strike occurs the best thing to do is stay home
since getting to an from work is a "parcours de combattant"
Rarely do those kinds of strikes go for very long and they
serve as warning the management. This in turns leads to negotiations
becoming more serious. So the "social dance" is easy to figure

From: Earl Evleth on
On 30/01/10 19:46, in article xt6dnXdk4Onm4_nWnZ2dnUVZ8jti4p2d(a),
"John Rennie" <john-rennie(a)> wrote:

> And both those classes eat better food.

American eating habits are somewhat influenced by TV advertising.
Junk foods have high profits and get a big play. Poor kids
see the ads and get their parents to buy the item.

This brain washing even extends higher. We still remember when
a new breakfast cereal came on the market when our daughter
was young. It was called "Banana Wackies" and pushed by a crazy
looking animal pushing in one one of the programs our
daughter watched. She bugged us to get it and we did.
One bite and she refused to eat the rest, its banana odor
was too powerful. We tried to give it to our dog who refused
it too! This was of course and experimental marketing try
by whoever, and it failed and was off the market in a couple
of days.

Various junk food providers have to fight for shelf space
in the markets, and if a product does not sell they lose
their shelf space. So brain washing advertising is
essential in the business.

An American super market will have a large section devoted
to breakfast cereal. Both Donna and my generation were brought
up on Wheaties, Cornflakes, etc. which are eated with milk
and lots of sugar. In retrospect it was a poor diet
but basically breakfast is not that an interesting meal.
Donna has it better than me, she gets a healthy slice
of smoked salmon every morning, a good does of omega 3
and a low blood cholesterol. I have orange juice and
a croissant with jam + coffee. When traveling in the USA
we gorge on unhealthy bacon and eggs, but that is
brief. We have not had breakfast cereals in 30 years or
more and they don't represent to us a comfort food
from our youths.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 30/01/10 19:47, in article akv8m595gdmnhj7eoniuh9i7lifid23g8e(a),
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)> wrote:

> Highly
> skilled workers don't generally have unions, since employers cannot afford to
> abuse them.

This is true in most places. But French doctors have always had unions to
represent their interests. My wife just published a long article on the
battle between the unions and the doctors in resistance organizations
after WWII to control the French Medical Association. The unions won
that battle and represented a powerful element in French medicine,
and shaped just how the Social Securit was going to run health insurance.
The unions were protectionist and conservative, not really wanting
much change.

I was a AFL union organizer on UC Santa Cruz campus for several
years and had no luck in building membership. Yet the AFL teacher
organization is strong in primary and secondary education
in some parts of the USA. College Professors feel they are
above all that and that they can negotiate individually.
Some are in fact much more successful, and can move from
one campus to another getting increase in salary. But the
rank and file are not in that position, the top 5% are.
In fact at the time I moved to France and got a better
paying position and more research freedom. I did not
need a union for that. But the union is necessary to protect
the faculty collectively, not individually.

From: Earl Evleth on
On 30/01/10 19:49, in article 9mv8m519cvpvucqp92pub4v4pohrigvd3k(a),
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)> wrote:

> People who jog are mainly just imitating others.

I think it is a feel good exercise in that sense.
They feel superior to others but also with themselves.

Most exercise practiced alone is boring. I suspect
that most home exercise equipment gathers dust
after a few weeks. Games are interesting, human
competition comes into play. Some games you
have to be good at to enjoy however. I only
played tennis a few times and spent most of
the time chasing the ball. At least with ping
pong the ball does not go far. Golf did not
seem like that much exercise, except the long
walk. And people escape the long walk now
with golf carts demonstrating the most people
do not play golf for the exercise.