From: Gregory Morrow on
Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:22:05 +0100, Magda <no-spam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:20:34 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, John Rennie
>> <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked
>> like this:
>>
>> ... Magda wrote:
>> ... > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:26:59 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Earl
>> Evleth <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> ... > arranged some electrons, so they
>> looked like this: ... >
>> ... > ... On 30/01/10 19:46, in article
>> xt6dnXdk4Onm4_nWnZ2dnUVZ8jti4p2d(a)giganews.com, ... > ... "John
>> Rennie" <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> wrote: ... > ...
>> ... > ... > And both those classes eat better food.
>> ... > ...
>> ... > ... American eating habits are somewhat influenced by TV
>> advertising. ... > ... Junk foods have high profits and get a big
>> play. Poor kids ... > ... see the ads and get their parents to buy
>> the item. ... > ...
>> ... > ... This brain washing even extends higher. We still remember
>> when ... > ... a new breakfast cereal came on the market when our
>> daughter ... > ... was young. It was called "Banana Wackies" and
>> pushed by a crazy ... > ... looking animal pushing in one one of
>> the programs our ... > ... daughter watched. She bugged us to get
>> it and we did. ... > ... One bite and she refused to eat the rest,
>> its banana odor ... > ... was too powerful. We tried to give it to
>> our dog who refused ... > ... it too! This was of course and
>> experimental marketing try ... > ... by whoever, and it failed and
>> was off the market in a couple ... > ... of days.
>> ... > ...
>> ... > ... Various junk food providers have to fight for shelf space
>> ... > ... in the markets, and if a product does not sell they lose
>> ... > ... their shelf space. So brain washing advertising is
>> ... > ... essential in the business.
>> ... > ...
>> ... > ... An American super market will have a large section devoted
>> ... > ... to breakfast cereal. Both Donna and my generation were
>> brought ... > ... up on Wheaties, Cornflakes, etc. which are eated
>> with milk ... > ... and lots of sugar. In retrospect it was a poor
>> diet ... > ... but basically breakfast is not that an interesting
>> meal. ... > ... Donna has it better than me, she gets a healthy
>> slice ... > ... of smoked salmon every morning, a good dose of
>> omega 3 ... > ... and a low blood cholesterol. I have orange juice
>> and ... > ... a croissant with jam + coffee. When traveling in the
>> USA ... > ... we gorge on unhealthy bacon and eggs, but that is
>> ... > ... brief. We have not had breakfast cereals in 30 years or
>> ... > ... more and they don't represent to us a comfort food
>> ... > ... from our youths.
>> ... >
>> ... > When I was 10, all skin and bones, I bugged my folks to get me
>> cornflakes. I ate it every ... > morning for about a month - and
>> then I found out I had gained a pound. That did it, I ... > never
>> touched "breakfast cereal" again in my life. ... >
>> ... > If you ask me, cereal serves one and only one purpose:
>> fattening up cattle. ...
>> ... Out of interest does your blanket hatred of cereals include
>> ... shredded wheat and good old porridge oats?
>>
>> What's your interest?
>
> Is that a no?


"The lady hath spoken...!!!"

;-)


--
Best
Greg


From: zwart geld on
On Jan 31, 12:44 pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > From: zwart geld <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> > Organization:http://groups.google.com
> > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:50:18 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>
> > On Jan 29, 9:36 pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >>> From: zwart geld <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
> >>> Organization:http://groups.google.com
> >>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> >>> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:38:06 -0800 (PST)
> >>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>
> >>> On Jan 29, 2:08 pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> >>>>> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> >>>>> <tribuyltinafp...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> >>>>> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> those who come after us.
> >>>>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:39:12 +0000
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice....
>
> >>>>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> In the case
> >>>>>>>> of Borders the employees are not even told when this is going go to
> >>>>>>>> happen,
> >>>>>>>> and it's a condition of their employment that they not tell *anyone*
> >>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> does happen...
>
> >>>>>>> Frankly, I'd make it legal to access these materials in the
> >>>>>>> dumpsters.
>
> >>>>>> But they shouldn't reach the dumpsters at all! With so many people in
> >>>>>> the world starving (even in "developed" countries), unwanted food should
> >>>>>> be made available to any who need it!
>
> >>>>> I think that food is often donated. I was more thinking of
> >>>>> supposedly unusable electronics or whatever. It amazes me what
> >>>>> people toss out.
>
> >>>>>>>> OTOH a number of food stores or restos will donate their over-stock or
> >>>>>>>> whatever to food pantries and charities...and OTOH some forbid this
> >>>>>>>> absolutely.
>
> >>>>>>> What I'm saying is that if this stuff matters to you, go to the
> >>>>>>> place that isn't wasteful.
>
> >>>>>> That's probably why the perpetrators don't make their actions public!
> >>>>>> Those of us who grew up during the Great Depression were taught not to
> >>>>>> waste food - meaning we ate what we were given, even if we disliked the
> >>>>>> items served. Most American restaurants - although the portions may be
> >>>>>> over-generous - will provide a "doggy bag" for your leftovers, upon
> >>>>>> request. I suspect that, in most cases, the "dog" never sees them -
> >>>>>> they provide the customer's next-day lunch.
>
> >>>>> That's a good thing, although Earl has some sort of problem with
> >>>>> it.
>
> >>>> The "doggy bag" has a down side. If you are a tourist traveling from place
> >>>> to place you cannot take advantage of it. Most motel rooms have neither
> >>>> refrigerators in which to store the left over food, nor microwaves in which
> >>>> to reheat it. This is almost always our situation. So the food is sent
> >>>> back to be wasted.
>
> >>>> BTW, I have also noticed that the doggy bag, once brought home, can get
> >>>> shoved to the back of the refrigerator, not eaten for the next day's lunch,
> >>>> eventually going bad and getting thrown out. I have seen this problem at
> >>>> the home of a relative.
>
> >>>> Donna Evleth
>
> >>> ...buy a dog
>
> >> I already have a dog, who went out to dinner with us here in France this
> >> very evening.  She enjoyed what we did not eat (which was not much, because
> >> portions are reasonable here).  She is our fourth dog.  All of our dogs have
> >> enjoyed being the dog at the restaurant who comes well before the "doggy
> >> bag".
>
> >> Donna Evleth
>
> > they let dogs in the resto ?
>
> For sure.  At our favorite local restaurant, the owners themselves have a
> dog, a Yorkie named Divine, who is present and greets the patrons.  She and
> our Britanie have decided on mutually ignoring each other, that is how they
> have settled the "top dog" issue.
>
> Donna Evleth

do you let your dog lick the plates ;-)
From: Gregory Morrow on
Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:09:55 -0600, "Gregory Morrow"
> <xxepxax(a)labeltt.no> wrote:
>
>> Martin wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> What's your interest?
>>>
>>> Is that a no?
>>
>>
>> "The lady hath spoken...!!!"
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Some lady LOL
>
> Nut crunch for breakfast again, Greg?

Oatmeal porridge, actually...

;-)


--
Best
Greg


From: Earl Evleth on
On 31/01/10 13:12, in article
25c0729a-8148-4d11-9f5c-644280604dea(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, "zwart
geld" <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>>> they let dogs in the resto ?
>>
>> For sure. �At our favorite local restaurant, the owners themselves have a
>> dog, a Yorkie named Divine, who is present and greets the patrons. �She and
>> our Britanie have decided on mutually ignoring each other, that is how they
>> have settled the "top dog" issue.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>
> do you let your dog lick the plates ;-)

Only at home, it makes washing them easier.

But not in the restaurants but they are often given tidbits.

I had a colleague, in France, who had two dachshunds, Gunther and Henri.
He was unmarried and took his dogs with him to restaurants.
Somebody told the story that once he was in a restaurant
in Normandy alone with his dogs. When the waiter took his order
he ordered two orders of Sole � la Normande. The waiter looked
confused, why two orders? My colleague pointed to his dogs.

Gunther and Henri were nasty little dachshunds who always
barked at me (a fellow dachshund owner, ours was named Otto)
when I passed my colleague's office door. They eventually
went to doggy heaven and he replaced them with two equally
as nasty pugs who would jump at my lap, stare me in the face
and growl. My colleague was also a bit nasty so I figured
the dog's were merely matching their master.


From: Mxsmanic on
Earl Evleth writes:

> Most exercise practiced alone is boring.

If it's exercise for the sake of exercise.

I get my exercise by walking (about 90 minutes a day). It serves a useful
purpose besides just being exercise, and it saves me money on M�tro tickets,
and I like to walk.

I have a type of physique that lends itself to weight training (low levels of
myostatin, perhaps, and very easy to build muscle). However, weight training
is so inexpressibly boring that I've never taken advantage of it.

> Games are interesting, human competition comes into play.

I understand that the Wii has become very popular in retirement homes, because
it provides physical gaming and exercise for people who aren't necessarily in
good enough shape to run up and down a tennis court. It's both great fun and
good for health.

> Some games you
> have to be good at to enjoy however. I only
> played tennis a few times and spent most of
> the time chasing the ball.

Same here ... and I found that chasing the ball was way more exhausting than
playing the game.

> Golf did not seem like that much exercise, except the long
> walk.

I've never played it, but I get the impression that the actual swing requires
that one be in reasonable shape, because it moves a lot of muscles and joints
through a wide arc.