From: JohnT on
On 31/01/2010 3:53 PM, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> without sugar. They have fiber but the energy content is mostly carbs,
>> which are merely complex sugars.
>
> I haven't had too many rice or corn dishes with sugar in them in the developed
> world, either.

You don't have Kelloggs in France?
--
JohnT
From: Gregory Morrow on
Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:04:12 +0000, JohnT <spamnot123(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2010 3:53 PM, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Earl Evleth writes:
>>>
>>>> without sugar. They have fiber but the energy content is mostly
>>>> carbs, which are merely complex sugars.
>>>
>>> I haven't had too many rice or corn dishes with sugar in them in
>>> the developed world, either.
>>
>> You don't have Kelloggs in France?
>
> Banned from the cockpit since the incident with the jammed joystick.


<chortle>

I'm surprised - or maybe *not* - to see that Mixi is still haunting
Usenet...


--
Best
Greg


From: Donna Evleth on


> From: John Rennie <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net>
> Reply-To: john-rennie(a)talktalk.net
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:01:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>
>>> From: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net>
>>> Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95
>>> Reply-To: evgmsop(a)earthlink.net
>>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
>>> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:22:53 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mxsmanic wrote:
>>>> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Food tends to be the cheapest thing going. Of course if you insist
>>>>> on buying pre-made TV dinners, your costs will skyrocket.
>>>> Food costs have skyrocketed in recent years, and balanced foods with good
>>>> general nutritional value and expensive ingredients like protein are always
>>>> more expensive than cheap carbohydrates.
>>> I don't think it does any good to confuse this jerk with facts, Mxxi!
>>
>> Evelyn, the main problem with Bill is that he believes he is always right.
>> No argument can touch him. Bill is always right.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>>
> But we regulars are a wee bit fond of him aren't we?

Indeed we are. He is always civilised in his pigheadedness. And there are
so many who aren't. Consider PJ... although I would rather not, which is
why I have killfiled him.

Donna Evleth

From: Donna Evleth on


> From: zwart geld <michaelnewport(a)yahoo.com>
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:12:20 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>
> On Jan 31, 12:44�pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>> From: zwart geld <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
>>> Organization:http://groups.google.com
>>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
>>> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:50:18 -0800 (PST)
>>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>>
>>> On Jan 29, 9:36�pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>>>> From: zwart geld <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com>
>>>>> Organization:http://groups.google.com
>>>>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:38:06 -0800 (PST)
>>>>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>>
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2:08 pm, Donna Evleth <devl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
>>>>>>> <tribuyltinafp...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>>>> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we
>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> those who come after us.
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:39:12 +0000
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>>
>>>>>>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the case
>>>>>>>>>> of Borders the employees are not even told when this is going go to
>>>>>>>>>> happen,
>>>>>>>>>> and it's a condition of their employment that they not tell *anyone*
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> does happen...
>>
>>>>>>>>> Frankly, I'd make it legal to access these materials in the
>>>>>>>>> dumpsters.
>>
>>>>>>>> But they shouldn't reach the dumpsters at all! With so many people in
>>>>>>>> the world starving (even in "developed" countries), unwanted food
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be made available to any who need it!
>>
>>>>>>> I think that food is often donated. I was more thinking of
>>>>>>> supposedly unusable electronics or whatever. It amazes me what
>>>>>>> people toss out.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> OTOH a number of food stores or restos will donate their over-stock
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> whatever to food pantries and charities...and OTOH some forbid this
>>>>>>>>>> absolutely.
>>
>>>>>>>>> What I'm saying is that if this stuff matters to you, go to the
>>>>>>>>> place that isn't wasteful.
>>
>>>>>>>> That's probably why the perpetrators don't make their actions public!
>>>>>>>> Those of us who grew up during the Great Depression were taught not to
>>>>>>>> waste food - meaning we ate what we were given, even if we disliked the
>>>>>>>> items served. Most American restaurants - although the portions may be
>>>>>>>> over-generous - will provide a "doggy bag" for your leftovers, upon
>>>>>>>> request. I suspect that, in most cases, the "dog" never sees them -
>>>>>>>> they provide the customer's next-day lunch.
>>
>>>>>>> That's a good thing, although Earl has some sort of problem with
>>>>>>> it.
>>
>>>>>> The "doggy bag" has a down side. If you are a tourist traveling from
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> to place you cannot take advantage of it. Most motel rooms have neither
>>>>>> refrigerators in which to store the left over food, nor microwaves in
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> to reheat it. This is almost always our situation. So the food is sent
>>>>>> back to be wasted.
>>
>>>>>> BTW, I have also noticed that the doggy bag, once brought home, can get
>>>>>> shoved to the back of the refrigerator, not eaten for the next day's
>>>>>> lunch,
>>>>>> eventually going bad and getting thrown out. I have seen this problem at
>>>>>> the home of a relative.
>>
>>>>>> Donna Evleth
>>
>>>>> ...buy a dog
>>
>>>> I already have a dog, who went out to dinner with us here in France this
>>>> very evening. �She enjoyed what we did not eat (which was not much, because
>>>> portions are reasonable here). �She is our fourth dog. �All of our dogs
>>>> have
>>>> enjoyed being the dog at the restaurant who comes well before the "doggy
>>>> bag".
>>
>>>> Donna Evleth
>>
>>> they let dogs in the resto ?
>>
>> For sure. �At our favorite local restaurant, the owners themselves have a
>> dog, a Yorkie named Divine, who is present and greets the patrons. �She and
>> our Britanie have decided on mutually ignoring each other, that is how they
>> have settled the "top dog" issue.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>
> do you let your dog lick the plates ;-)

No. Not out in public. Only at home.

Donna Evleth

From: Donna Evleth on


> From: Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
> Organization: Just Mxsmanic
> Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:41:56 +0100
> Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
>
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Most exercise practiced alone is boring.
>
> If it's exercise for the sake of exercise.
>
> I get my exercise by walking (about 90 minutes a day). It serves a useful
> purpose besides just being exercise, and it saves me money on M�tro tickets,
> and I like to walk.

This is my exercise as well, unless it is just too far (think m�tro
St-Placide to m�tro Porte-des-Lilas) or unless I am really pressed for time.
I don't save any money on m�tro tickets, though, since we have free old
folks' tickets good within the city of Paris, because our taxable income is
low.
>
> I have a type of physique that lends itself to weight training (low levels of
> myostatin, perhaps, and very easy to build muscle). However, weight training
> is so inexpressibly boring that I've never taken advantage of it.
>
>> Games are interesting, human competition comes into play.
>
> I understand that the Wii has become very popular in retirement homes, because
> it provides physical gaming and exercise for people who aren't necessarily in
> good enough shape to run up and down a tennis court. It's both great fun and
> good for health.
>
>> Some games you
>> have to be good at to enjoy however. I only
>> played tennis a few times and spent most of
>> the time chasing the ball.
>
> Same here ... and I found that chasing the ball was way more exhausting than
> playing the game.
>
>> Golf did not seem like that much exercise, except the long
>> walk.
>
> I've never played it, but I get the impression that the actual swing requires
> that one be in reasonable shape, because it moves a lot of muscles and joints
> through a wide arc.

Our daughter used to play golf. Apparently it did not satisfy her enough,
she is now into rock climbing.

Donna Evleth