From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on


Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> Magda wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:44:12 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Mxsmanic
> > <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
> > this:
> >
> > ... Magda writes:
> > ...
> > ... > If you ask me, cereal serves one and only one purpose:
> > fattening up cattle. ...
> > ... Cereals are the most important staple foods in the world, for
> > human beings. ... Rice, wheat, corn ... most of the world lives on
> > these.
> >
> > Whoooooooosh!
>
> Lol...
>
He took the Shrader out of his brain stem again.





--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on


Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> On 31/01/10 13:58, in article 4B657E80.739F26B8(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > There's no doubt that there are people on this earth who are barely
> > making it food wise. Some are starving. But the issue was first
> > world "poor" who often have cell phones, high speed internet, seven
> > Showtimes, three HBOs and drive cars around rather than walking or
> > riding a bike. My assumption is that they would give those things
> > up if they were actually starving, and since they are often
> > overweight, the argument that they are starving is silly.
>
> You should try and document your blather!
>
What are you talking about now?



> Not everybody in a 3rd world country is poor.
>
Since I didn't claim that everyone in third world is poor, what's
your point, Earl?



> The statistical mean income could well be $2-$4
> for a country and you'd still have 10% very well off.
>
?????



> For instance "30 Jun 2009 In general, per capita income in Ghana is below
> $400," That is below $2 per working day. Yet, in the country you see
> expensive houses and people driving around in expensive cars.
> Those rich people are being served by the low wage masses. Those
> rich have cell phones, internet etc, I know because we have been
> in their homes. But the people out on the streets, at each corner
> trying to sell you things cheaply do not have these things.
>
As is often the case with you, your comment is utterly unresponsive
to what I said.


> You have to understand and not be so blind.
>
Kook Alert.



--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on


John Rennie wrote:
>
> Earl Evleth wrote:
> > On 31/01/10 13:58, in article 4B657E80.739F26B8(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
> > {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> There's no doubt that there are people on this earth who are baring
> >> making it food wise. Some are starving. But the issue was first
> >> world "poor" who often have cell phones, high speed internet, seven
> >> Showtimes, three HBOs and drive cars around rather than walking or
> >> riding a bike. My assumption is that they would give those things
> >> up if they were actually starving, and since they are often
> >> overweight, the argument that they are starving is silly.
> >
> > You should try and document your blather!
> >
> > Not everybody in a 3rd world country is poor.
> > The statistical mean income could well be $2-$4
> > for a country and you'd still have 10% very well off.
> >
> > For instance "30 Jun 2009 In general, per capita income in Ghana is below
> > $400," That is below $2 per working day. Yet, in the country you see
> > expensive houses and people driving around in expensive cars.
> > Those rich people are being served by the low wage masses. Those
> > rich have cell phones, internet etc, I know because we have been
> > in their homes. But the people out on the streets, at each corner
> > trying to sell you things cheaply do not have these things.
> >
> > You have to understand and not be so blind.
> >
> >
>
> Is obesity that much of a problem anyway? Won't it help
> to kill off this ageing population that might overwhelm
> us? Or will the problems connected with obesity overwhelm
> us even before ageing does.
>
Are old people a problem? That was the society in "Logan's Run". I
think that the problem will become or is already the fact that the
human life span is too short.




> Which brings me to a very pressing problem facing the
> Health Service in the UK. Should very obese people requiring
> stomach reduction surgery take precedence over others
> requiring urgent operations? They are even being actively
> encouraged to put on even more weight to jump the queue.
>
Of course in the US, they would simply pay for the operation if
they could. If they were insured, I suspect that would pay, if they
met the criteria, that it was an actual medical need. I further
would say that it is unlikely that there is much of a queue in the
US.


> http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/21/obesity-weight-loss-surgery
>
> I'm inclined to think we should make these operations
> be paid for privately anyway. The patients condition
> is, after all, self inflicted.
>
They claim they were compelled to eat all those Twinkees, or that
it's a glandular problem.


> I bet Bill agrees with
> me on this one unless of course he's in the queue.
>
I didn't even know there was a queue. But what to pay for on NHS is
a real problem. People will debate whether or not this or that is
worthy of your government payout. I suspect though that the same
arguments are made with private insurance.



--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on


Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> On 31/01/10 13:44, in article hnuam59df2lo9osvu5cosll6ps0jh32rbb(a)4ax.com,
> "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> If you ask me, cereal serves one and only one purpose: fattening up cattle.
> >
> > Cereals are the most important staple foods in the world, for human beings.
> > Rice, wheat, corn ... most of the world lives on these.
>
> without sugar. They have fiber but the energy content is mostly carbs,
> which are merely complex sugars.
>
Complex carbs take longer to digest, giving you energy over a
longer period. When backpacking, I'd avoid the simple surgars until
the end when I needed quick short term energy for the final push.




--
"Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually
said.
From: Mxsmanic on
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:

> So they strike in unison? Because the whole point of the union as a
> means of extorting high wages is to strike and force compliance by
> the company. If one of three unions strike, that won't do that.

Sure it will, if enough of the workforce is idled. It isn't necessary to bring
the company to a halt, it is only necessary to cause sufficient financial pain
to force the company to negotiate. A single union can do that in many cases
even if other unions do not cooperate.

> France is notorious for having unions that are powerful, there's no
> way to convince me they aren't powerful.

For the most part, unions are not powerful in France. Only a handful have any
real influence, and only in specific industries. For example, the CGT loves
to start high-profile strikes in domains like transportation, but it does
absolutely nothing for ordinary people in ordinary jobs.