From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 31 Jan 2010 08:58 Gregory Morrow wrote: > > Magda wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:44:12 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Mxsmanic > > <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like > > this: > > > > ... Magda writes: > > ... > > ... > If you ask me, cereal serves one and only one purpose: > > fattening up cattle. ... > > ... Cereals are the most important staple foods in the world, for > > human beings. ... Rice, wheat, corn ... most of the world lives on > > these. > > > > Whoooooooosh! > > Lol... > He took the Shrader out of his brain stem again. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 31 Jan 2010 09:40 Earl Evleth wrote: > > On 31/01/10 13:58, in article 4B657E80.739F26B8(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde > {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > There's no doubt that there are people on this earth who are barely > > making it food wise. Some are starving. But the issue was first > > world "poor" who often have cell phones, high speed internet, seven > > Showtimes, three HBOs and drive cars around rather than walking or > > riding a bike. My assumption is that they would give those things > > up if they were actually starving, and since they are often > > overweight, the argument that they are starving is silly. > > You should try and document your blather! > What are you talking about now? > Not everybody in a 3rd world country is poor. > Since I didn't claim that everyone in third world is poor, what's your point, Earl? > The statistical mean income could well be $2-$4 > for a country and you'd still have 10% very well off. > ????? > For instance "30 Jun 2009 In general, per capita income in Ghana is below > $400," That is below $2 per working day. Yet, in the country you see > expensive houses and people driving around in expensive cars. > Those rich people are being served by the low wage masses. Those > rich have cell phones, internet etc, I know because we have been > in their homes. But the people out on the streets, at each corner > trying to sell you things cheaply do not have these things. > As is often the case with you, your comment is utterly unresponsive to what I said. > You have to understand and not be so blind. > Kook Alert. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 31 Jan 2010 09:45 John Rennie wrote: > > Earl Evleth wrote: > > On 31/01/10 13:58, in article 4B657E80.739F26B8(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde > > {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> There's no doubt that there are people on this earth who are baring > >> making it food wise. Some are starving. But the issue was first > >> world "poor" who often have cell phones, high speed internet, seven > >> Showtimes, three HBOs and drive cars around rather than walking or > >> riding a bike. My assumption is that they would give those things > >> up if they were actually starving, and since they are often > >> overweight, the argument that they are starving is silly. > > > > You should try and document your blather! > > > > Not everybody in a 3rd world country is poor. > > The statistical mean income could well be $2-$4 > > for a country and you'd still have 10% very well off. > > > > For instance "30 Jun 2009 In general, per capita income in Ghana is below > > $400," That is below $2 per working day. Yet, in the country you see > > expensive houses and people driving around in expensive cars. > > Those rich people are being served by the low wage masses. Those > > rich have cell phones, internet etc, I know because we have been > > in their homes. But the people out on the streets, at each corner > > trying to sell you things cheaply do not have these things. > > > > You have to understand and not be so blind. > > > > > > Is obesity that much of a problem anyway? Won't it help > to kill off this ageing population that might overwhelm > us? Or will the problems connected with obesity overwhelm > us even before ageing does. > Are old people a problem? That was the society in "Logan's Run". I think that the problem will become or is already the fact that the human life span is too short. > Which brings me to a very pressing problem facing the > Health Service in the UK. Should very obese people requiring > stomach reduction surgery take precedence over others > requiring urgent operations? They are even being actively > encouraged to put on even more weight to jump the queue. > Of course in the US, they would simply pay for the operation if they could. If they were insured, I suspect that would pay, if they met the criteria, that it was an actual medical need. I further would say that it is unlikely that there is much of a queue in the US. > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/21/obesity-weight-loss-surgery > > I'm inclined to think we should make these operations > be paid for privately anyway. The patients condition > is, after all, self inflicted. > They claim they were compelled to eat all those Twinkees, or that it's a glandular problem. > I bet Bill agrees with > me on this one unless of course he's in the queue. > I didn't even know there was a queue. But what to pay for on NHS is a real problem. People will debate whether or not this or that is worthy of your government payout. I suspect though that the same arguments are made with private insurance. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 31 Jan 2010 09:47 Earl Evleth wrote: > > On 31/01/10 13:44, in article hnuam59df2lo9osvu5cosll6ps0jh32rbb(a)4ax.com, > "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> If you ask me, cereal serves one and only one purpose: fattening up cattle. > > > > Cereals are the most important staple foods in the world, for human beings. > > Rice, wheat, corn ... most of the world lives on these. > > without sugar. They have fiber but the energy content is mostly carbs, > which are merely complex sugars. > Complex carbs take longer to digest, giving you energy over a longer period. When backpacking, I'd avoid the simple surgars until the end when I needed quick short term energy for the final push. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 15:58
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > So they strike in unison? Because the whole point of the union as a > means of extorting high wages is to strike and force compliance by > the company. If one of three unions strike, that won't do that. Sure it will, if enough of the workforce is idled. It isn't necessary to bring the company to a halt, it is only necessary to cause sufficient financial pain to force the company to negotiate. A single union can do that in many cases even if other unions do not cooperate. > France is notorious for having unions that are powerful, there's no > way to convince me they aren't powerful. For the most part, unions are not powerful in France. Only a handful have any real influence, and only in specific industries. For example, the CGT loves to start high-profile strikes in domains like transportation, but it does absolutely nothing for ordinary people in ordinary jobs. |