From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 16:06 Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > It's cheap enough that they almost can make it into alcohol or > biodiesel and use it in your car. It's not going through two animal bodies first in that case.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 16:08 Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > Food is so cheap, that farmers can't even afford to make more of > it, so government provide price supports. There's a huge difference between what farmers are paid for the food they grow, and what consumers must pay to buy food.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 16:09 JohnT writes: > Which reports? I didn't keep the URLs.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 16:11 Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > There's no doubt that there are people on this earth who are baring > making it food wise. Some are starving. But the issue was first > world "poor" who often have cell phones, high speed internet, seven > Showtimes, three HBOs and drive cars around rather than walking or > riding a bike. My assumption is that they would give those things > up if they were actually starving, and since they are often > overweight, the argument that they are starving is silly. They are not starving; they are malnourished. That's the difference between Third World and First World. But heart disease and diabetes can kill you just as surely as starvation. And First-World poor people do not necessarily have all the things you describe. Even if they do, these things are often cheaper than food. A cell phone might cost only $30 a month, compared to hundreds of dollars per month to feed just one person.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 16:13
John Rennie writes: > Is obesity that much of a problem anyway? Won't it help > to kill off this ageing population that might overwhelm > us? Or will the problems connected with obesity overwhelm > us even before ageing does. Obesity isn't just a problem of old people. > Which brings me to a very pressing problem facing the > Health Service in the UK. Should very obese people requiring > stomach reduction surgery take precedence over others > requiring urgent operations? They are even being actively > encouraged to put on even more weight to jump the queue. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/21/obesity-weight-loss-surgery > > I'm inclined to think we should make these operations > be paid for privately anyway. The patients condition > is, after all, self inflicted. I bet Bill agrees with > me on this one unless of course he's in the queue. If the UK had a working public health system, there would be no queues, and this problem wouldn't arise. |