From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 31 Jan 2010 11:29 Magda wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:34:52 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, John Rennie > <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: > > ... You are an abusive person aren't you, Magda? > > No, dahhhhhhhhling - Billy Stupid is. > > He can't even read, for heavens' sake! > I find that an odd claim given that the sum total of our interaction has been entirely via the written word. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Mr Q. Z. Diablo on 31 Jan 2010 17:35 On 2010-01-31, Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet: > > > Mxsmanic wrote: >> >> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: >> >> > It's cheap enough that they almost can make it into alcohol or >> > biodiesel and use it in your car. >> >> It's not going through two animal bodies first in that case. >> > Do you think it takes the same amount of energy for you to ride > your bike ten miles as it does to drive a four thousand point SUV > ten miles? This is surely a no-brainer? I probably cycle around 35km every day and consume around 12000kJ worth of food (I'm assuming that my intake is around normal). Covering that distance takes a total of around 1 hour and 25 minutes. Even if we assume that this is all the energy that I consume in a day and it accounts for my entire food intake, we're talking about (a few napkin calculations are required here) a power output of 2380 Watts. This is plainly ludicrous (I would be gobsmacked if even a world championship cyclist would put 2.5-odd kW to the pedals). Even a small, economical, four cylinder car puts out (and hence consumes) out a couple of dozen times that amount. I am frankly surprised that people wouldn't figure that out without resorting to any kind of numerical calculation. In short, we're not even talking about a "four thousand point" (whatever that is - the terminology isn't used in Oz to the best of my knowledge) SUV - a small, economical motor vehicle uses at least an order of magnitude more energy than a cyclist. -- "Who gets a hard-on during Kwanzaa? Nobody!" - Dan Savage
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 20:35 John Rennie writes: > It can stun a poster but the fact is that Bill is sometimes 'on the > ball'. He is here. Not all carbohydrates are digested very rapidly. > The ones that have a high GI (Glycemic Index) are but the ones that > have a low GI are not. Those are the ones that fill you up and that > it is not necessary to eat too much of. One of the highest glycemic indices is that of mashed potatoes, which consist almost entirely of starch. Complex carbohydrates are digested almost as rapidly as simple carbohydrates. The digestion of starch in bread, for example, begins right in the mouth.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 20:36 Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > The corn ones are better for you since they don't need the > saturated fat. Flour tortillas have a lot of fat in them. From where? It's just bread.
From: Mxsmanic on 31 Jan 2010 20:37
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: > Do you think it takes the same amount of energy for you to ride > your bike ten miles as it does to drive a four thousand point SUV > ten miles? After raising a food crop, feeding it to an animal, then feeding it to me, yes, it might. The energy I burn on the bicycle is only a tiny fraction of the total energy required to produce that yield. Most of the total energy is wasted making plants grow, fattening animals, and fattening me. People who think cars are wasteful and polluting should look at what the situation was in large cities when only horses were available. |