Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice...
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From: Donna Evleth on 1 Feb 2010 06:43 > From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to > those who come after us. > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:38:58 +0000 > Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice... > > > > Magda wrote: >> >> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:12:01 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, >> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" >> <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: >> >> ... John Rennie wrote: >> ... > Mxsmanic wrote: >> ... >> Earl Evleth writes: >> ... >> >> ... >>> In industrial societies. In 3rd world countries in which >> ... >>> the per capital income of the lowest elements of the society >> ... >>> are less than $2/day, food is the major "budget" item. >> ... >> >> ... >> It is the same for me in the industrialized world. I'm continually >> ... >> amazed by >> ... >> how much money buying groceries consumes. >> ... > >> ... > I'm surprised at that. Generally in the western world anyway >> ... > food has become cheaper and cheaper >> ... >> ... Really? To which part of "the western world" do you refer? In the >> ... U.S., even "junk food" prices have skyrocketed over the past few years. >> ... Meat and fresh produce engender fresh "sticker shock", on nearly every >> ... visit to the supermarket! >> >> The list of things I don't buy any more due to the sudden higher (read >> "absurd") prices is >> as long as my arm - and growing. >> > Fingernail clippers? What a silly example that is! Fingernail clippers are a one-time purchase. Meat and fresh produce are bought every day. Donna Evleth > > > > > > -- > "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually > said.
From: Donna Evleth on 1 Feb 2010 06:54 > From: Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> > Organization: Just Mxsmanic > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty > Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:33:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice... > > John Rennie writes: > >> I'm not quite sure you understand me. You use the example of mashed >> potatoes which has a high GI. We are agreed that high GI foods >> are to be avoided are we not? > > A person in normal health need not avoid high GI foods. A person who has > problems with glucose metabolism, such as a diabetic, should probably avoid > them in order to make blood glucose management easier. Exactly. This is why I, a type 2 diabetic, avoid mashed potatoes altogether. Donna Evleth
From: John Rennie on 1 Feb 2010 06:54 Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote: > On 2010-02-01, John Rennie <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet: >> Mxsmanic wrote: >>> John Rennie writes: >>> >>>> I'm not quite sure you understand me. You use the example of mashed >>>> potatoes which has a high GI. We are agreed that high GI foods >>>> are to be avoided are we not? >>> A person in normal health need not avoid high GI foods. A person who has >>> problems with glucose metabolism, such as a diabetic, should probably avoid >>> them in order to make blood glucose management easier. >> Or a person who wants to avoid getting fat - much more common >> than being diabetic. I just don't know why you used that >> example when I was endeavouring to explain that not all >> carbohydrates are rapidly digested. Good old porridge oats >> eaten in moderation is an excellent breakfast; a damn >> sight cheaper than bacon, eggs and buttered toast and far >> less fattening. > > Just goes to show that we can't really agree about anything much. I'm OK with > a good mash but one has to keep moving in order to offset such stuff. It's not > about the high GI, BTW. It's more about the butter and milk that tend to get > used. > I don't know how old you are, Jon, but I guess around the late 30s. When you're 75 or so you tend not to keep moving that much except, of course, for the brisk short walks which I keep promising myself to do any day now
From: Earl Evleth on 1 Feb 2010 07:10 On 1/02/10 12:32, in article 00f040ea$0$15652$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <diablo(a)thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote: >> Only because a motor vehicle is heavier. However, it may well be more >> efficient overall, as it is designed for its purpose, whereas a human being >> riding a bicycle is not. > > You are a loony. You don't believe that towing a 2 tonne vehicle around with > a > 150+ kW engine is efficient do you? Oh, you do? Year ago, Scientific American did a study on what was the cheapes way to travel. It boiled down to walking vs the bicycle. Walking was more expensive since shoes wear out faster than bicycle tires. That is cost and not calorie expenditure. from http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-122791.html Bicycling, light effort (10 to 11.9 mph) 400 calories an hour comes out to about 40 calories a mile for a 150 pound person. Walking consumes about 70 extra calories per mile. So biking moderately is less energy consuming by around 50%. Gasoline has about 32000 calories per gallon. If a car gets 30 miles to a gallon that comes to about 1000 calories / mile. A car uses 25 times that. However, if you put 25 people in the car you come out even. I would be best to drink the gasoline and take your bike uses
From: Earl Evleth on 1 Feb 2010 07:14
On 1/02/10 12:54, in article 17SdnUlwr8pnXfvWnZ2dnUVZ8opi4p2d(a)giganews.com, "John Rennie" <john-rennie(a)talktalk.net> wrote: >> Just goes to show that we can't really agree about anything much. I'm OK >> with >> a good mash but one has to keep moving in order to offset such stuff. It's >> not >> about the high GI, BTW. It's more about the butter and milk that tend to get >> used. >> > I don't know how old you are, Jon, but I guess around the late 30s. > When you're 75 or so you tend not to keep moving that much except, > of course, for the brisk short walks which I keep promising > myself to do any day now My secret, at 78 is to chase girls. Unfortunately my walker does not permit to catch them. |