From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 28 Jan 2010 04:17 Donna Evleth wrote: > > > From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> > > Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to > > those who come after us. > > Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty > > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:44:01 +0000 > > Subject: Re: Dutch McDo's 'wrong' to fire worker over cheese slice... > > > > > > > > "tim...." wrote: > >> > >> "Gregory Morrow" <rrrrrrrrrorrr(a)rrrnrjj.fi> wrote in message > >> news:AJqdnURCYeG8uP3WnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > >>> Earl Evleth wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 27/01/10 12:19, in article > >>>> DsCdnWI0k5Crgv3WnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com, "Gregory Morrow" > >>>> <rrrrrrrrrorrr(a)rrrnrjj.fi> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> But the court said in its written judgement: "The dismissal was too > >>>>> severe a measure. It is just a slice of cheese," reports AFP news > >>>>> agency. > >>>> > >>>> A reprimand was more in order. > >>>> > >>>> Drastic treatment of workers is a hallmark of modern, > >>>> profits-are-everything Capitalism. Basically > >>>> terrorize the workers. > >>>> > >>>> To repeat, Capitalism has no social goals, it lacks > >>>> human empathy. It ranks with Fascism in that regard. > >>> > >>> > >>> This kerfuffle is something I'd expect in the US, not in the EU where > >>> worker - protection laws are stronger... > >>> > >>> I wonder if this Dutch McDo's worker belonged to a union...??? > >> > >> When you have courts that enforce employment rights properly, individually, > >> you don't need to belong to a union. > >> > > What is in the contract? If there are rules for firing, then those > > rules must be followed. If the work is at will, then the employer > > should be able to fire the worker for any reason or no reason at > > all. Regarding unions, they are a form of collusion which > > interferes with the market. This is no different from any sort of > > monopoly and should be limited. > > Kook alert. > Have you repeatedly refuted this comment? No. The comment is also obviously true, unions are often monopolies. Consider the United Auto Workers. Not only are they a monopoly against a single company, they are a monopoly against most of an industry in a large country. This allows the extortion I was talking about. Consider that the ploy unions used to raise their wages was to strike *one* company in the industry. They told that company, and not the others, that if it didn't cave in and give them the money they wanted, they would strike it and only it until it was destroyed. They wouldn't strike the other companies in the industry, they'd let them continue to produce at the lower wage rates. Who could withstand that? Now GM is bankrupt. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Jan 2010 11:52 On 28/01/10 10:11, in article 4B6154A4.A5A34300(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Unions are monopolies. I would replace the term "bargain" with > "extortion". You would but then you are the dumbest person on this group.
From: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) on 28 Jan 2010 04:34 Earl Evleth wrote: > > On 28/01/10 10:11, in article 4B6154A4.A5A34300(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde > {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Unions are monopolies. I would replace the term "bargain" with > > "extortion". > > You would but then you are the dumbest person on this group. > I find that difficult to believe. -- "Gonna take a sedimental journey", what Old Man River actually said.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Jan 2010 12:18 On 28/01/10 10:34, in article 4B615A30.12459397(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I find that difficult to believe. You have a personal interest, and can not judge
From: John Rennie on 28 Jan 2010 12:23
Earl Evleth wrote: > On 28/01/10 10:11, in article 4B6154A4.A5A34300(a)yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde > {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" > <tribuyltinafpant(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Unions are monopolies. I would replace the term "bargain" with >> "extortion". > > > You would but then you are the dumbest person on this group. > Yes he's dumb and the above comment proves it. But he is far away from being the dumbest on this group. Peejay and jiggy are dumber, much dumber, and even you at times can give him a contest. |