From: Susette on 16 Dec 2009 09:33
On Dec 15, 2:53ï¿½pm, "Nonny" <someb...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> "Susette" <cruiseoutl...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > I did not care for the Decor the reds and dark colors, but I
> > think in
> > some ways it grew on me. I did not care for the artwork
> When Mrs. Nonny and I cruise, we usually take our own artwork and
> hang it in the cabin. ï¿½That way, we feel more at home and are
> assured that the cabin will always be tasteful. ï¿½The ship folk get
> a might testy about the nails in the cabin walls, but since I'm a
> big tipper, the steward just spackles them shut when we leave.
> The real issue is the poor folk on either side of us who have that
> nail point hanging through their wall, or the nail sticking
> through the side of the ship.
> ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
> and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
> concerning what they are talking about.
> The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
a nail sticking through the other cabin is a Plus Somewhere to hang
the Viking hat on!
susie And the Vikings
From: Susette on 16 Dec 2009 09:42
On Dec 15, 6:19ï¿½pm, "Jean O'Boyle" <job1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> ANSWERED INLINE:"Charles" <f...(a)his.com.remove.invalid> wrote in message
> > This was my first cruise on Holland-America and there were some things
> > I liked and some things about the ship and line I did not like. The
> > biggest pros and they are important ones were the food and the service.
> > The food was better than my recent experiences on any of the other mass
> > market cruises lines. The service was also better.
> Quite a few young people too, eh, Charles? ï¿½I was surprised at the number of
> children of all ages onboard. But I guess school was out for Christmas was
> the reason.
> > What I did not like was the ships public areas, both the decor and
> > design. Dark and terrible color combinations. The show lounge had lots
> > of obstructions and weird seating. The pool areas were awful with too
> > many tables and not enough lounge chairs. The hot tubs were tiny and
> > too few. The main pool can be covered which seems odd for the Caribbean
> > but I am sure that is a plus for Alaska.
> The cabins were in much lighter colors....some of the main areas were in
> dark royal blue and maroon with a touch of peachy red.and deep fuschias. The
> deck halls were in a bright royal blue print design...Didn't think it was
> all that bad. Like Ermalee said," I'm not going to live here so it makes no
> matter". Nice large circles of pretty floral marble seperating different
> areas were very attractive. I was disappointed that they had fewer huge live
> floral arrangements in the public areas than they usually have on HAL ships.
> > The cabin was very good. I upgraded to a Verandah and that was a good
> > decision as there were never any empty chairs on the pool deck because
> > of the chair hogs.
> > Activities are not a Holland-America strong point. I did hear good
> > things though about the Culinary Arts center but I am not into that.
> > The daily program sheet was not in a user friendly format making it
> > difficult to keep up with times and places of what activities they had.
> The newsletter has changed its format since we last cruised on HAL...The new
> one is confusing as it does not list activities in sequence but in several
> different columns. The old version had a perforated 3"x 8'' portion that you
> could tear off and take with you which listed activities by the hour making
> it much easier instead of taking the entire daily program with you.
> ï¿½> They moved the library but all the signs and maps had the old location.
> > the library itself was well stocked with recent books. Best library I
> > have seen on a ship other than the QM2.
> > The entertainment, except for the magician was pretty good. The
> > production shows were better than ones I have seen recently on
> > Celebrity, RC and Princess. The other entertainers other than the
> > magician were very good, loved the Elton john and Eagles shoe by Joel
> > Mason. The female comedian was also good.
> The first night magician was pathetic...I don't know where they got him from
> even though they said that he had been on the David Letterman Show. The rest
> of the entertainment was very good and that is a lot saying from me as I
> don't usually like the sing and dance acts but these were great! They had
> gorgeous costumes and the four soloists (two men and 2 women) ï¿½had very good
> ï¿½> I am not going to blame Holland-America for the composition of the
> > passengers on this sailing but unfortunately we had that rude crowd
> > onboard that moved to Florida from the New York area. I have
> > encountered them on the other cruise lines sailing out of Fort
> > Lauderdale during this time frame so it is not a HAL issue.
> BOY! You can say that again! ï¿½Erm and I ran into one VERY obnoxious mouthy
> one in the casino! Funny...they all say they are from Florida but that
> accent sure gives it away! ;-)
> > I have put Holland-America on my list of the mass market cruise lines I
> > would book on but it would not be my first choice. If there is a
> > category of premium mass market lines then HAL is in it along with
> > Celebrity. In general right now I prefer Celebrity followed by Royal
> > Caribbean when I judge the complete cruise experience for myself.
> I especially like the smaller HAL ships in Alaska...they are similar to the
> experience we had on the old Pacific Princess. Cozy and friendly.
> My favorites remain, Oceania with Celebrity, HAL and Royal Caribbean tied..
> I will have to give Carnival a try sometime next year...it is three years
> since I was on one of their ships.
> I think that HAL changed the impressions of at least some of our Viking
> Group. HAL did not object to our hats, in fact they got a kick out of the
> whole thing...but the whistles were painful to the people with hearing
> aids...the staff ï¿½treated that situation in a nice manner though, I thought.
> From what I remember someone saying, Princess was not quite as nice about
> the hats etc.on one Viking cruise. ï¿½What really got the attention were our
> Viking shirts...Very pretty shade of blue with a design that said "Vikings
> Go Dutch" in a white banner at the top with pastel colored buildings (like
> in Curacao) for the design and of course Susie's flamingo was there, too.
> Good job, Susie!...some people wanted to know where they could buy one!
> We really enjoyed ourselves.and I think a good time was had by all. ï¿½Our
> Trivia Team won some very nice navy fleeced long sleeved shirts with zippers
> at neck. The prizes they gave out this time were much nicer than what they
> have given out before.
> > Charles- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Your rubbing in you won that Sweatshirt!!!! you beat our team but they
gave wrong answers! the INDIAN is a OCEAN not a SEA!!!
Loved playing the trivia!
I liked HAL it be great for bermuda! Only negative was the people
that was on there came in busloads and they were whiners and YEA they
were from FLA by way of the Bronx.
I thought it funny at your party at your room how many of them stopped
at your DOOR while your having a party and wanting us to tell themw
hat color tags we had WHATS it matter what we had??
and the whistles in the dining room- they were not whistles! they were
Christmas Straws and your table the bad assees they were started
whistling through them and setting the old peoples Hearing aids off!
These dang Vikings! It was not done intentional and who knew!
Bob bought Straws and your table turned them to whistles that made
everyone want to try it!
OOOPS... and yes they weer so polite in the way it was handled...
Glad you liked the shirts! as a matter of fact i am wearing mine now
all our clothes are washed and put away- SHorts put away til the
My bob is a great laundry person Johnny on the spot. he decorated our
Bedroom too for Christmas it was so nice!
I love you giys and HAL for ONCE A CRUISE LINE that paid attention,
had all the group tables Correct and everything was done as it should
ahve been. I love their staff. I STILL love the FUN more on Royal
Caribbean... but hal is more laid back and I really liked that...Ports
From: Susette on 16 Dec 2009 09:45
On Dec 15, 7:04ï¿½pm,
> You must not have been looking when I was, Charles. <G> There was vacuuming
> and polishing of the brass going on often...in fact several people commented
> that they thought something was wrong because of the smell and I told them
> it was just brass polish. There was often late night vacuuming of the public
> areas, too.
I agree I thought I always seen them Cleaning Bob and I even commented
that theyw ere always cleaning.....
From: Susette on 16 Dec 2009 09:49
On Dec 15, 7:43ï¿½pm, "Tom K" <tkani...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> "Jean O'Boyle" <job1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > WHAT??? After all the comments you made to me around the ship about the
> > art work??? Taking me up to see those statues of Neptune and the
> > Mermaids??? <VBG>
> Those are an artistic treasure for all mankind... not unlike a beautiful
> Vermeer painting..... ï¿½ NOT.
> > -> We are what we are...
> > And you are one of a kind, Thomas!!!! ;-)
> > --Jean
> At least giving the ship a thorough inspection, we were able to find many of
> the little out of the way places where they hide the old people while taking
> photographs of the ships for the brochures.
> Charles was right... they DO have places where they can hide the old
YEP we saw the places didn't we? although these ones were not going to
hide very well!
HAL called me today to ask about our cruise....very ncie touch
From: Susette on 16 Dec 2009 10:14
On Dec 15, 8:18ï¿½pm, "Rosaly Z. Greenberger" <ros...(a)ptd.net> wrote:
> I find your mention of the Bronx people sailing for Chanukah
> being rude a glaring anti-semitic remark.
> I've been on this rtc group for a number of years and pretty much know
> the people involved. ï¿½Many people are rude but I object to your\
> insinuation and believe you should read that paragraph over again
> and think about what you were inferring.
> If my feelings are correct, then I would never want to cruise with
> your bigoted inferences.
I was married to a Jewish Guy my best friends are Jewish, I love them
dearly... THEY do not act like that at all. this is 3rd time we
encountered this and its ONLY from the Ft Lauderdale sailings and it
is what it is. they were rude, treated the staff like they were
slaves, Just not right.
I said excuse me when walking to my room because a bunch of ladies
were congregating in the walkway and I said Excuse me several times to
get down the hall- Then she stepped back and we bumped and the person
started maiking a BIG SCENE waving her arms all around LIKE "I"
Purposely bumped her I said I DID SAY EXCUSE ME and my SO said to
them your standing in the walkway and no one can get around! When
going to watch the lighting of the Candles which I find beautiful,
THEY whined and Griped and bitched it was crowded.... WHY whine .. it
was beautiful the one lady was so mean she said she was getting the
Rabbi and have him I guess stretch the room.....You do not want to
Cruise with us, It is your loss, because these people here are
wonderful folks to go with, I met and cruised with people who not only
became friends they became Family- I love everyone of every Hue. I
just do not like Rude, and yep it was the Bronx group Florida that
seemed to be rude. NOT everyone But a gooood majority